The Toolkit Thread

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by hilslamer, Sep 2, 2007.

  1. BearII

    BearII No, it's not complicated

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    Hey xroad, nice list. Couple of questions:
    1) where did you get that little mirror, great idea, I need to add one of those.
    2) Care to share your consumables list? Does it include something like JBWeld?
  2. hilslamer

    hilslamer 2XRedheadedstepchild

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    Consumables are tools too,although I see the point in separating them to some extent. Keep in mind my original post was exclusively dirt-driven and kept as consolidated and compact as possible; I've got an Adventure bike toolkit now that I need to go through in detail - and consumables are separated similarly.


    I see the little red flashlight you carry - those are popping up everywhere in hardware stores, construction supply places, etc. They have like 9 LEDS and three AAA batteries - put lithium Energizers in them and they last for ever and are more than enough to do tire repairs in the dark by. To top it all off, I found them on sale at Harbor Freight(hardly ever go in there, really!) for $2.99/pair. I can't believe how good they are for so cheap - we'll see how the rubber swithc cover weathers but at that price, they are almost disposable(sadly).
  3. Motoriley

    Motoriley Even my posing is virtual

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    I've bought a bunch of those and I don't think I would trust them too much. A couple have succumbed to vibration and been relegated to the scrap pile. The one in my wifes purse broke. They are OK for my kids but i don't think I would want to depend on them for an emergency repair.


  4. hilslamer

    hilslamer 2XRedheadedstepchild

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    WOW...mine has been rattling around in the glovebox of my Adventure for a coupla thousand miles...maybe I got a good one?
  5. xroad

    xroad Been here awhile

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    The flash light is free from Harbor Freight. They give them away if you can find the coupon. I'll look. I got 3. So far only one failed one time. I knock it on palm and it has work find since. That little light has to be one of the most useful tool I have since I got it. I am surprise I don't have a small light for all these years.

    I intend to get something more reliable. After all, my bike carry tool kit is for EMERGENCIES. So, I either have to get something of superior quality or have dual redundancies. BTW, in my consumable item kit, I have a chemical light stick.
  6. hilslamer

    hilslamer 2XRedheadedstepchild

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    I carry a Streamlight Stylus Pro for general use:

    [​IMG]

    http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=133


    ...although the HF cheapies definitely have better flood, IMO.


    So do I - steadfast reliable light, always.
  7. xroad

    xroad Been here awhile

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    == STORE IN/ON BIKE (all the time)
    Coded info: License, Registration, credit card #
    Emergency $$$ slip in user manual
    User manual
    Stock Suzuki B1250 tool kit (spark plug tool, suspension tool, large axle wrench, etc.)
    Mushroom tire plug kit (primary kit)
    Gummy string tire plug kit w/ glue (back up kit, damage tire steel cord can cut the mushroom)
    Air gauge
    Electric air pump (strip down Walmart $10 pump)
    Jumper cable (tucked in a side panel somewhere)
    Bungee cords

    == STORED IN TANK BAG (Absolute minimum carry)
    Rain suit
    Day-Glo vest
    Strobe light (I have had a hi/lo beam bulb died on me, ride to the store was scary)
    Flash light (I need one that has a strobe feature)
    Bottle waters
    Energy bars
    Paper towel
    Spare key
    Garbage bag
    Antacid
    Tylenol
    Vitamin
    Imodium AD
    Antiseptic pad
    Band-Aid
    Breath mint
    Earplugs
    Eyeglasses backup & case
    Extra warmth layer

    (Following, Tool Roll & Consumables should be carry but I have no saddle bags at this time)

    == TOOL ROLL
    Locking wrench 4” (I jettisoned this with heavy heart. If a nut strips, this is use before the locking jaw with teeth comes out)
    Locking pliers 5”
    Long nose pliers
    1/4" drive Breaker bar (higher torque than ratchet)
    Open end: 10x11, 12x13, 14x15 mm
    Box end: 8x10, 12x13, 14x15 mm
    Socket: 6-15 mm (small sizes may need to go)
    Hex bit holder (for the screw driver tips)(notice I have no screw driver?)
    Screwdriver bits: 3 Philips, 3 flats
    Extension long
    Extension short
    Hex bit set: 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 (small sizes may need to go)
    Tire valve stem tool
    Metal saw blade
    Knife
    Hemostat
    VOM (w/clip & probe leads, Radio Shack one I got is flat and small)
    Chain break tool / Master link (this is big, I jettisoned it)

    == CONSUMABLES
    Loctite blue
    Chemical light stick
    Electrical tape
    Duct tape
    Electrical wire
    Steel solid wire
    Steel stranded cable
    Fuses
    Electrical wire slice connectors
    5 minutes epoxy
    Sandpaper
    Epoxy putty (JB Weld)
    Nuts & bolts & washers assortment
    Lighter
    Isopropyl alcohol (for cleaning surface to be epoxy, water in gas tank)
    Nitrite gloves
    Waterless hand clean up goo
    Pencil & paper
    Solder strips
    Shrink tubing
    WD-40
    Radiator leak seal (or black pepper)
    Mylar blanket (repair in the rain, stuff in jacket for warmth)
    Zip ties
    Brake lamp bulb (can remove if there is a redundant LED brake light)
    Tail light bulb (can remove if there is a redundant LED brake light)
    (Current bike have separate hi beam lo beam bulb ... redundancy ... no spare bulb needed)
    Tire valve stem
    Chain lube [long trip]
    Gas siphon tube [long trip]

    == MED KIT [long trip]
    General stuff
    Latex gloves
    Band-Aid
    Scissors
    Knife
    Dental floss
    Tylenol
    Earplugs
    Paper towel / Toilet papers
    Antacid
    Imodium AD
    Alcohol pad
    Antiseptic pad
    Bandage tape
    Gauze pad
    Tweezers
  8. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    I guess flashlights are OK if you're trying to find something in the dark, but for roadside repairs give me a headlamp any day. I carry a Princeton Tec EOS headlamp. Runs for 44 hours on "low" with 3 "AAA" batteries, also has a Medium (10 hours) and High (2 hours) setting, you can aim it, no bulb to break or wear out (Luxeon LED), small size, waterproof, about twice as bright as a Mini-Mag -- what more do you want?

    [​IMG]

    I also carry a "cap light" from Cabelas for chores around the campsite. Runs on CR-2032 watch batteries.
  9. hilslamer

    hilslamer 2XRedheadedstepchild

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    See my original posts - Petzl is my choice but I agree, headlamp is primary in all cases.
  10. xroad

    xroad Been here awhile

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    I have considered the skinny Streamlight. It fits nicely into the tool roll. Then I decided that flashlight should be accessible, fast, at all time. So it goes into my tank bag list. I need one that has a strobe function. Many years ago, caught in a rain storm between Quebec and Montreal, the 18 wheelers were going by me at 80+ mph while I was on the shoulder. Scary. They I had a dual filament headlight bulb failed and I had no head light for 5 miles trying to get out of the sticks to find a main road with a store ..... So it happened twice! Too many time for me. I need that strobe function as an integral flashlight or separate strobe light. Separate is bulky but more powerful. It is a real "photo flash" light. LED flashlight is bright but I may have to aim it backward.
  11. xroad

    xroad Been here awhile

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    My friend laugh at my list. He said I'll need a trailer if I carry all that stuff. Well, yes, the list is long but the items are very small, as long as you don't carry the 500 tablet family size Tylenol bottle. I just carry 6 tablets. That should give me about 12 hours to find a store for more. Same with waterless hand cleaner. I leave the shop jumbo size bottle home. I have a film can (getting harder to find) fill with the stuff. That should clean up the hands of everybody that join in to help me fix stuff. I wish I can find catchup size packets for lots of the stuff on the list. It would make things more compact.

    OT: Speaking of film can. This young man I work with ..... he has never in his life taken a photo with film! Toys-r-Us real digital camera since he was a baby.
  12. hilslamer

    hilslamer 2XRedheadedstepchild

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    I like to call everything in my toolkit "single serving" just like you state! :rofl


    The times, they are-a change-in'...
  13. xroad

    xroad Been here awhile

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    List has been posted. I welcome all questions and critiques. I am trying to reach the Karate Kids of tool kit Zen.

    The mirror is from Harbor Freight. Some stuff, cheap is OK. Some other stuff, it has to be best I can afford. The sockets are 6 points Craftsman. The box end wrenches are Nepros from Japan. The 3 pieces cost me about $80! Hex bits is usually at the most risk. Good ones are expensive. Cheap ones are ... cheap. I got the one made by VIM. Have not try them yet.

    Here is a photo of the Nepro wrenches. www.Nepros.net

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  14. xcgates

    xcgates Whaaa?

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    I know a kid who didn't know what a cassette tape was when we were recording a performance (running a soundboard). He was in highschool, I was in college. And *I* felt old! :eek1
  15. river251

    river251 Been here awhile

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    Any reason you go this route instead of combination wrenches?
  16. xroad

    xroad Been here awhile

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    I had the double open ends in my tool box for over 30 years and never used them. I had a set of combo wrenches. Now that I am finally building a legit respectable motorcycle carrying tool kit, I went with the double box, because I already have the double open ends. Probably cost more than it had to because double box are less common than combos and generally slightly more.

    Another reason, more important, is weight and efficiency. There is the possibility that I will take out the 3 double open ends and replace them with one adjustable wrench or one Vise Grip locking wrench. I really like the locking wrench as it grips 3 sides of the fastener and it locks down tight, minimizing roundoff. When things DO get round off, using it won't damage the fastener further, unlike the Vise Grip with the teeth. Both locking wrench and adjustable have the disadvantage of a larger head so accessibility may be an issue. Weight and space saving? Not a whole lot if any, may be heavier and larger. So, for now, I'll stick with the double open ends.

    Open end: 10x11, 12x13, 14x15 mm
    Box end: 8x10, 12x13, 14x15 mm

    Nepros did not have a 10x11mm double box to match my 10x11mm open ends. So I went with 8x10mm. Perhaps it is better, smaller fasteners tend to get rounded off easier just because they have less "meat" than a bigger fastener. AND, 11mm is not all that common.
  17. marchyman

    marchyman DR and GS

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    I suspect you've been buying toys :lol2

    Although, a friend was quite upset when his Inova broke after a 3-4 foot drop to a wooden deck. I would have expected better, too.

    I've had excellent experience with two brands. A Streamlight pencil lives in the car and another in my roadcrafter suit. A Fenix L2D lives on my right hip when wearing my R2P. I've lowsided when wearing the fenix. It still works perfectly but does have a tiny bit of road rash where it slid on the asphalt.

    I use those because they are bright enough to illuminate shadows on sunny days. The Fenix is the better of the two. For general use I prefer the Petzl Tikka Plus head lamp. It lives in my tank bag.

    All of them have outlasted the bulbs in the several mini-maglights that I can't bring myself to throw away. That doesn't say much for the maglights as I use the LED lights much more often. The maglights are used when I'm too lazy to fetch something better.
  18. Exurban

    Exurban Been here awhile

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    I take a Jet Beam Jet 1 Pro and Fenix L1D. The first because it's a thrower and the second because it has a good low and lasts a long time. Both get beat up pretty regularly in use and have never failed. I have a Tikka that I try to use working on the boat engine but it's not really bright enough for what I need so I end up with one of those in my mouth, a pair of pliers in one hand and a shop mirror in the other, hanging upside down.:lol3
  19. HaChayalBoded

    HaChayalBoded Brooklyn Bored

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    There should be plenty of 3, 4, and 5mm allen heads that you might not want to toss them. On my partiular bikes there are many fasteners in that size.

    There mat be just a few, but the smaller sockets do come in handy. I believe small hose clamps use a 6mm hex head, or maybe 8. Not all hose clamps have a slot for a flat head screwdriver.

    8mm hex is common enough that you might want to reconsider dumping them, the little stuff doesn't really take up more space or add much weight to the rest of your kit to justify dumping them.
  20. HaChayalBoded

    HaChayalBoded Brooklyn Bored

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    I also have one of these, good little light. I also have two of the shorter single celled versions. Same light but much shorter. I think it's just under 4" or just a hair taller than a standard bic lighter.

    I have dozens of those little 3 celled LED lights. Some are great, some are crap. Depends where they're from and what batch they are. I have a few that say home depot that are great, and a few that are also home depot branded that are of considerably lesser quality.

    I have an old one I bought that I love, its the same basic light but the ends are hex shaped instead of being round. Keeps the light from rolling away.