The Trans Missouri Trail - The "TMOT"

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  1. sieg

    sieg Wearing out tires......2 at a time, day after day.

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    The route of the Show Me 200 is not shared with the public. Even the paid riders are not allowed to have a GPS's and are checked before they can ride the event. All though I'm sure there are people out there that have it and give it out.
    Reasons for not sharing:
    1) It is a ride put on by volunteers, of the MTRA, for the purpose of making money to support the MTRA's efforts to create and maintain off road trails that can be used by the public on land owned by the MTRA, our campground, showers, well and equipment. (You can ride those trails any weekend that the MTRA/VTRA in open from Mar. to Oct.)
    2) It crosses land owned by 14 private landowners, Doe Run Corp. and the National Forest Service. The MTRA secures permission from those 14 land owners. With Doe Run Corp we provide them with liability insurance and liability releases for that event. We must even give Doe Run liability releases and a list of names anytime we enter their land for maintenance and pre-rides.
    3) We work with the National Forest Service to secure Special Use Permits to use closed trails and roads that are not open to public use. Stipulations in these Special Use Permits require us to maintain these "close to the public" trails and roads. Even if they are damaged by use other than ours, we have to fix them. Their thinking is we are the only ones allowed to use them so we must maintain them or keep illegal use off of them. (We ran into this scenario 2 years ago, where someone with a Jeep tore up some water bars, my wife and I spent a whole day with the club's skid steer fixing the damage before they would renew our permit for the next year. And we could not use the trail that year.)
    4) The route does change from year to year. Most recently because the EPA got involved and we were threaten with fines if we came with 300yd of a Waste Management Area, (WMA). WMA is any place the mine; dug a hole, ran drain water, stored spoils, had erosion, flooded or any number of other places where ground or water is disturbed. Also much of the land changes owners from a "friendly" to an "unfriendly" owner, regularly. Many times the owners log an area and we must re-route.

    So in a summary; riding it anytime other than the event could get you arrested, fined by the EPA and/or cause the club to lose use of the land. And our income and ability to maintain our property for public use.
    If you ride it will you get in trouble? In all likelihood probably not. If I see you out there will I have you arrested? Dam sure, and it won't be the first time.
    You are invited to sign-up ride it the first weekend in June!

    BUT if the 1200GS listed in your signature line is your only bike I'm very sure you could not make even the first 1/10 mile. The route has been described as "a Hare Scramble with short gravel sections connecting the single track". All the participants are on dirt bikes with a plate.
    The Show Me 500 would be a great ride for you on a 120GS, you should come on down and ride that!

    And if you're in the area contact me, I know a lot of riding in the area and I'm always ready to ride.
  2. Daleah

    Daleah Been here awhile

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    Sieg, thanks for the info. i had no idea. kudos to you and your group for all of the work you do. I'm not a crazy man, but i read gravel roads and i do ok on those.

    We spent a lot of time this summer riding in Northern Iowa and Illinois and Southern Wisconsin, so I'm looking for rides to our South for something different.

    I'll look at the Show Me 500 too. thanks for the invite.

    Dale
  3. sieg

    sieg Wearing out tires......2 at a time, day after day.

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    :thumb Come on down! :clap
  4. Drunk_Uncle

    Drunk_Uncle Long timer

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    I tried some of the open show me 200 trails at the MTRA Halloween camp out, yeah I would agree that a 250-500 enduros best suited for the ride. Over my head on a BRP.

    I have to look into the Show Me 500.
  5. sieg

    sieg Wearing out tires......2 at a time, day after day.

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    Yeah come on back.....we miss you. Are you still in AZ. Still in the Military? Weren't you in AK?
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    Drunk_Uncle Long timer

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    Back AZ for the summer. Did the qualifier at Rawhyde finishing 19th out of 42. Will send a PM with more info. Off active duty and going back to AK full time in the spring.
  7. ts3doug

    ts3doug Long timer

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    This is great fellas and has hopefully inspired me enough to start the project I've been thinking of. I live in Cedar Rapids and have good friends in STL and Minneapolis. I really want to put together an off pavement version of the Avenue Of The Saints ADVnue Of The Saints? I plan on working the Iowa section this year, but would love input from you folks for the MO sections.

    Thanks in advance
  8. Dustcloud9

    Dustcloud9 Cloud Rider/S10

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    Oh that sounds cool!... if you can run a connector to Debuque you could connect it up to the TWAT
  9. sieg

    sieg Wearing out tires......2 at a time, day after day.

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    I'd be interested in scouting out some stuff from STL north. I know a lot from STL south, going north would be new too me.
    So from Cedar Rapids you'd stay close to the Mississippi to STL?
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    STL north Illinois side or Missouri side?

    Someone with a jeep mentioned there was a decent northern gravel route on the IL side but didn't have details
  11. ts3doug

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    I'm up for whatever works. Planning on running it through Amana Iowa, but could easily change. This idea is in its infancy.

    I've only been on pavement north of STL in Missouri and have no knowledge of the IL side. It'll be interesting to see what we can come up with.
  12. ts3doug

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    There are some good dirt roads over by Mt Vernon and up through Anamosa, a connector to the TWAT should be very doable.
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  14. sieg

    sieg Wearing out tires......2 at a time, day after day.

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    Oh, I'd keep it on the MO. side. From riding both sides on pavement, the IL. side is better for cornfields, MO. side better for motorcycles. You game?
  15. Nesquik

    Nesquik Long timer

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    I'm borrowing a torque wrench this week


    I screwed up my forks when I replaced the seals and I was binge working OT until yesterday


    I would love to go out scouting with you, hoping to get it fixed this week.
  16. bash3r

    bash3r I ain't no DingWeed

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    Farthest North I've gone so far by gravel is up near Hannibal, MO.. North from there on MO or IL is pretty flat.. looks very similar... but there's always decent routes to be found!... it's on the bucket list for the spring to explore more north... you gents go at it and report back :D
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  17. NorthernTraveler

    NorthernTraveler Long time Adventurer

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    Here's some info that might help ya -

    County road maps for Missouri -
    http://modot.org/newsandinfo/CountyMaps.htm

    County road maps for Iowa -
    http://www.iowadot.gov/maps/msp/dlalphabetcounty.html

    County road maps for Minnesota -
    http://www.dot.state.mn.us/maps/gdma/maps-county-alpha.html

    County road maps for Illinois -
    http://www.idot.illinois.gov/transportation-system/Network-Overview/highway-system/maps#General

    County road maps for Wisconsin -
    http://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/travel/road/hwy-maps/county-maps/default.aspx

    I use these county maps to find out what type roads are in a given area, then look at a Topo map to see what the terrain looks like, map out a couple of options and go ride them. Something to try....
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  18. justdirtyfun

    justdirtyfun Been here awhile

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    Further out 70 near Warrenton you have some "creek roads". They go South to 94 which is a great road on any bike. Massas, Lost creek and one other. Callaway fork is over near Bush wildlife and is remote feeling.
  19. bash3r

    bash3r I ain't no DingWeed

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    Yes there's good riding west & north of Wentzville and west towards Wright City/Warrenton... I'm from Wentzville and have ridden every gravel road around here over and over and over and over lol All the creek roads are not what they use to be.. Lost Creek, Massas, Dry Fork, Callaway, Charette , all use to be amazing.. it's not what it used to be though, many water crossings have been paved its a disappointment... I still ride them but not the same anymore.. Some awesome sections just no longer exist, they are gone! :( There's a few more I just won't publish as if i put them on the interwebs the locals will have an up-roar and I don't want them to block them off... a couple are private property and the owner has allowed me to pass through, so I won't put those on a public TMOT map of course...

    I used the county map for the TMOT South creation.. come in handy when you are trying to piece things together as there's a million different turns you could take... As we all know, some may try a private road and it's truly private.. other times you hit a public road where the locals will run out and try to run you off saying it's private.. I've had that two times in the same road.. and they road is public! Sheriff even said so when I saw him in town one day.. just be respectful for the next guy riding through!
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