The TT600 Thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Zahnarzt, Mar 29, 2011.

  1. Zahnarzt

    Zahnarzt Been here awhile

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    This is a weakness of th early model TT600 and I thing we could come up with a cheap easy soultion. You seam to have stumbeld on a possible solution.
    However,in my case, my stator only has six(?) poles and three are used for the ignition.Is this the setup yours had. I wanted to get mine rewound for lighting but wasn't sure if only three poles would work.
    If I remember correctly, you get volts from number windings and amps from number of poles...maybe
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  2. Fantuzzi

    Fantuzzi Been here awhile

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    Keep on writing TT600 threads. :clap
    As an old XR guy I'm looking jealously on the big BRP threads.

    We already have 2 pages. Let's go for 500 more.
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  3. erdsh

    erdsh KTM 640 Adventure

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    The TT Belgarda is a very strong and reliable bike.
    the engine and frame lasts forever.
    The XR is a little lighter in feeling, but the TT is more comfortable.
    there used to be a saying "XT never die", the TT does not fail.
    There are plenty of parts since its the XT engine.
    This bike uses parts from all the big manufacturers such as brembo and bosch.
    Following are some sites regarding the TT
    http://www.tt600s.de/
    http://ljthomp.tripod.com/print.htm

    http://www.bikelinks.com/directory/Makes/Yamaha/

    http://www.yamaha-motor.com.mx/Manual_Partes/catalogo.php?cate=On-Off&mode=XTZ660 Tenere
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  4. Hennepinboy

    Hennepinboy Have battery will travel.

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    I own a 85 TT600N with a Minnesota title and plated for street use. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    The original owner purchase the Yamaha and a Honda XR600R new for him and his brother. The brothers trailered bikes from MN to CO for trail riding, he told me that they made two trips and only rode the bike for 2-3 days of trail riding on each trip. Judging from the wear on the side of the frame at the pegs I believe him. I believe that the tires where original factory<o:p></o:p>
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    The only changes I have made from stock are: I drilled two holes in the rear fender to attach the license plate. Installed a set of bark buster hand guards Converted the rear tail light to a LED board type light. Replace the none DOT rated tires, with tires rated for street use. I added a RAM mount and an old GPS to use as a speedometer.<o:p></o:p>
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    The bike can either be very easy to start or a bear, depending on how many are watching me trying to start the beast. The more watching the more kicks it takes. I started it last night, turned on the fuel pull out the choke and a couple of prime kicks, rolled it over until I heard the compression release click and returned the kick lever to the top, a firm kick and it start up on the first kick after sitting for a couple of months.<o:p></o:p>
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    The Yamaha is a good trail bike, light on single tracks and fast on dirt roads, easily keeps up with my brothers KTM 450 and him being a better rider then me.<o:p></o:p>
    The Yamaha climbs hills with ease, start out in too high of gear and it chugs up like a John Deere A, in the correct gear it climbs like a scared cat going up a tree.<o:p></o:p>
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    I have own the Yamaha for about 4 years and I have done more damage to the bike then in its first 22 years of the bikes life. Last fall I crashed it on a rock covered hill scrapping the right side panel and denting the muffler. I have worn the paint off the frame at the pegs and the decals off the tank.<o:p></o:p>
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    I do think of selling this bike and purchasing a DRZ400, the Yamaha TT600N is too much bike for a guy who is almost 60. It is a young mans ride. <o:p></o:p>
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  5. Fantuzzi

    Fantuzzi Been here awhile

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    For any reason, Yamaha decided to put cheaper suspension stuff into the E- models of both Belgarda generations. I can speak for 2nd generation kicker with a 46mm Paioli fork and Öhlins shock and I'm very happy with the suspension setup on both sides for street and trail use.
    Compared to my former 600 and 400 XR, the suspension feels superior, especially under off road stress.

    I don't know if it it conventional wisdom, but a few experts here say that Belgarda used off spec Öhlins shocks for the TTs with higher tolerances and wider quality variation. I can not confirm from my Öhlins.
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  6. wiggywildwildwest

    wiggywildwildwest cranky bugger

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    i'm not sure what they were called over there. over here we have ZZ-R and GPX 250s. mine came from a '95 i think. they are 30mm. up from the 26mm stockers. being keihin carbs, all the tuning stuff is available. they were a definite performance and economy improvement for me.

    i still need some bigger idle jets and had to drill the mains a bit. on a stock TT600 the jetting would probably be very close.

    my bike has a 19L Acerbis tank on it. it has a bit more room around the carbs than the stocker. it still required some reshaping with a hot air gun. i reckon you could do the same to the stock tank. just go steady and don't get it too hot.

    and suspension wise, i used a complete front end from a WR426. it uses the same lower bearing. the stem is about 30mm longer. and uses a different top bearing. i got an adaptor machined to knock into the frame and take the wr's bearing. i also had to add 8mm per side to the steering stops. this worked well for me as it raised the handle bars. ( i'm 6'2" )

    one other bonus with the WR stuff is it came with a speedo drive. the WR cable works with my speedo and is surprisingly accurate. i was surprised when the stock fork springs ended up being pretty good for me. the brakes are heaps better too.
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  7. Zahnarzt

    Zahnarzt Been here awhile

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    Nice set up Brucifer.

    What is that blue beauty I see hiding behind the air box:evil with an adjustable spring as well. Do tell please, Brand, Specs Cost, is it still available...

    PS there is a complete engine - and most of the rest of the bike- on EBay now... A little pricey but it looks pristine
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  8. brucifer

    brucifer Long timer

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    Nice set up Brucifer.

    What is that blue beauty I see hiding behind the air box:evil with an adjustable spring as well. Do tell please, Brand, Specs Cost, is it still available...

    PS there is a complete engine - and most of the rest of the bike- on EBay now... A little pricey but it looks pristine[/QUOTE]

    I was wondering if anyone would notice that. :D It's a Works Performance shock. Besides the spring preload the only other adjustment is compression I believe, or maybe rebound, I don't remember now, the ol' memory starting to fail.
    It's set up for a 200 lb rider for motocross. It's a huge difference over the under sprung stocker.
    This one was on ebay directly from Works. At $500.00 it wasn't a cheap upgrade but it was worth it. They are discontinued.

    The other mods to this bike are a 621cc JE piston, Web motocross grind camshaft with matching valve springs, ported head by Baisley Performance and the Cobra slip-on.
    Unfortunately as I was buttoning up this installation, I noticed the main bearings had some play. So, it will have to be torn back down all the way and new mains installed.... I have really been dragging my feet on this.

    Also have an '86 YZ490 (disc brake) front end assembly ready to go on. Only mod needed was to press out the YZ stem from the lower triple and press in a TT stem.
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  9. BIG ED XT FAN

    BIG ED XT FAN Long timer

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    I was wondering if anyone would notice that. :D It's a Works Performance shock. Besides the spring preload the only other adjustment is compression I believe, or maybe rebound, I don't remember now, the ol' memory starting to fail.
    It's set up for a 200 lb rider for motocross. It's a huge difference over the under sprung stocker.
    This one was on ebay directly from Works. At $500.00 it wasn't a cheap upgrade but it was worth it. They are discontinued.

    The other mods to this bike are a 621cc JE piston, Web motocross grind camshaft with matching valve springs, ported head by Baisley Performance and the Cobra slip-on.
    Unfortunately as I was buttoning up this installation, I noticed the main bearings had some play. So, it will have to be torn back down all the way and new mains installed.... I have really been dragging my feet on this.

    Also have an '86 YZ490 (disc brake) front end assembly ready to go on. Only mod needed was to press out the YZ stem from the lower triple and press in a TT stem.[/QUOTE]
    Both are 43 mm? So you can just side them right in the clamps?? ED:evil:evil:evil:evil:evil
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  10. Gian

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    Nice bike! Which differences between TTS and TTE frames and engines (apart from kick-electric starter of course)? Different suspensions too?

    This is a very special TT600 a friend of mine (Claudio Zago) built with original BYRD pieces and other especially made

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    He brought it straight to Dakar on the Heroes Legend 2010!
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  11. brucifer

    brucifer Long timer

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    Both are 43 mm? So you can just side them right in the clamps?? ED:evil:evil:evil:evil:evil[/QUOTE]

    The YZ triples are narrower so you'd have to come up with different spacers for the wheel. I just went with the whole set-up so I didn't have to monkey with it. :D
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  12. Fantuzzi

    Fantuzzi Been here awhile

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    Very nice bike!
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  13. Dan Diego

    Dan Diego Long timer

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    I sold my 1986 TT600 and XT600 at the same time to the same guy. I sure do miss the TT! I'm actually looking to buy an old XT now.

    I have some parts for those bikes I'll list soon. Just for those who need them.

    I know I have the K&N Air Filter (YA-6003) lightly used and in the box and some other items that you might find useful.
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  14. erdsh

    erdsh KTM 640 Adventure

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    Very nice bike !!!
    the differences are in the suspension. The TTE has KAYABA which are shorter then the TTS with the Ohlins which are much better.
    The electric system is different, the TTS has no battery while the TTE must have battery.
    the S has manual decompression mechanism.
    the E has cush drive (rubber padding in rear wheel)
    I think the camshaft timing is a little different.
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  15. Zahnarzt

    Zahnarzt Been here awhile

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    Anyone got good shots of one in the air.
    I'll post some when I can find them.
    My TT lifts the front so easy its almost not a challenge, but I digress.
    Lets see what you've got.
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  16. BIG ED XT FAN

    BIG ED XT FAN Long timer

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    Theres a U-tube of a TT600 gos up againts a IT490! Theres one with sound and one no sound. Maybe someone here can get the link?:deal BIG ED XT&TT 600 FAN!!:evil:evil:evil:evil:evil:evil
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  17. BIG ED XT FAN

    BIG ED XT FAN Long timer

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    I had a link to a 59X web site out of itay?? Also theres a Germany TT600 too. Loss all to a PC Crashed!!!:cry Anybody "over the pond" can help???
    BIG ED XT&TT 600 FAN!!!:evil:evil:evil:evil:evil:evil
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  18. wiggywildwildwest

    wiggywildwildwest cranky bugger

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    i've spoken to a few people in my life who have had or seen buggered 2nd gear on TT/XT6's. from shifting roughly while wheelieing them. when i suggested it only takes a flick of the clutch in 3rd to pull them up, and why were they bothering with first ? i got no reply.
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  19. dvgonzo

    dvgonzo Been here awhile

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    We used to practice wheelies on a long dirt uphill slope just for fun for hours on end. I always pulled it up by just yanking on the bars while I gassed it, and then would upshift to second or sometimes third and never had any gearbox issues....course, I ALWAYS use the clutch when shifting......even with the front tire in the air! :rofl
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  20. Kelly_O

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    I read somewhere that "lugging" them in 5th gear was hard on them.
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