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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by WIDELOAD, Jul 17, 2013.
+1 more for the xr650, they aren't terrible to crank once you get used to it
That's about what I was thinking too.
They are terrible to crank when it's 95 degrees and you are perched precariously on the side of a snotty, root covered hill.
no e-start is a deal killer.
And who would think that taking 1/5 of a radial engine designed for antique airplanes and putting it in a bike frame would be the ultimate anything? I guess if your ultimate bike has a cg up around your neck, you would be ultimately dead off road.
XRs, but mainly the XRR, once again.
Whatever did those old timers do? Seriously, I ride plenty of e-start bikes, and rarely they start as easily as my xrr. Finding nuetral to start an e-start bike is every bit as hard as pulling the clutch and kicking my pig.
sorry to spoil all of your thinking:
it's the Suzuki DR 750 and 800!
Or something like a Norton Manx, BSA Gold Star or Matchless G 50. Everything else is just a try ...
Kind regards, Bambi
What's the best oil to use in a thumper?
The Best thumper is the KTM 690 Enduro R. No I don't have one but I have a friend who does. Weighs the same as my DRZ, good suspension and brakes. Doesn't require the maintenance of the race motor KTM's and has 65 hp in full power mode or just a mere 50 when turned down. You don't want to be behind one on a gravel road or trail. I would love to have one but it cost twice what my DRZ did. They also make a monster Supermoto bike.
Hard for me to give up my Husky TE610. It has been rock solid in terms of reliability and while it doesn't have the power of the 690 it is very tractable. Decent road machine and great off road for two-track and even some light single track.
Your pulling our legs,making a funny?
Neutral must be found to kick start a bike 9 times out of ten,there's still a clutch with drag involved.
Its the first thing pro MX'ers do when they stall during a race,click,clikety,click finding neutral,then kick while the race goes on around them.
Unless they're riding a KTM.
Just watching a friend try to start his XR650R on the side of a steep sidehill trail when its hot,hot, out is painful enough. Its a deal breaker.
Hand cranking car engines went out of style in about 1920 something?
The teedub is the best thumper IMHO. It's so damn fun. I own a klr and prior bike was a royal enfield but they are about a step or two below the "awesome-fun" level of the tw200.
Is as fun as a moped but, actually cooler. Not to mention built by Yamaha. Quality, survivability, price, mpg, power, fun, fat tires, economical. It doesn't weigh a thousand pounds like my klr either.
End of thread. Tw200. The little dork.
The best engine... Rotax 650, as fitted to all the BMW singles since 1993. Well known as the most durable thumper engine around and still with decent performance. The best from is was put in was the X so there it is. If you want to talk about the engine that's made the most impact on the world of motorcycling then you really need to look at the Honda C90 platform. That engine has spawned so many variants that it's become ubiquitous and is still the most common layout in existence today. Go out to remote parts of the world and you see old women delivering fruit on these machines with bamboo boxes lashed on through remote countryside and over terrain most of us can only dream of covering.
Still, in my opinion, the ultimate thing is the one that works best and that's the Rotax. Ultimate, in terms of the true definition of the word, is the Suzuki DR800. Biggest single ever made and brilliant to ride. I have both the X and the Big, both are simply awesome.
I fail to see how old woman delivering fruit on one makes it the most awesomest thumper ever made!
Old men like old women.
Everybody loves fruit.
There's a thumper involved.
Win, win, win....
Well according to the dictionary defines 'ultimate' (not awesome) as....
3. a. Of the greatest possible size or significance; maximum: Has the ultimate diamond been found? (... Significance... C90 engine, the most common platform on Earth, size, DR800...)
b. Representing or exhibiting the greatest possible development or sophistication: the ultimate bicycle. (...Rotax...)
That word again... Dictionary
Most important of all is that YOU own these models. Tell us about your PRIUS.
It's hard to believe americans aren't taken seriously.
I have to agree with TeamJeritol. The KTM 690 is most fun, grin producing, exciting thumper I have ever ridden.
Good things to say about the old Honda 650:
I have a Honda XR650L and it was dependable and quite dirt worthy. I have used it OFF ROAD when all around were full on dirt bikes. I would be coming from behind, but I always finished the ride.
Better things to say about the KTM 690:
I have owned a 2013 KTM 690 R for two months. Man this thing is BAD ASS. Reading KTM riders describe their bikes as having the GRIN FACTOR I wondered, is this true? YES IT IS!!!
All I have done is put on a WINGS silencer and a Flatland Racing bash plate. Stock everything else. For my kind of riding, it is what the doctor ordered. I can ride it to commute to work a little over one hour each way. I can easily see the bike in the Hooligan configuration. Then on the weekend I can go riding to the dirt from my house, tear it up on some dirt roads, ride in the woods and do some single track. Still getting acquainted with my KTM, and hope to get dirtier in the very near future. The handling is better than the Honda. The KTM is more powerful and the bike is much lighter that the Honda. The bike makes me smile. REALLY BIG SMILES.
I know the Honda is a good deal $ wise, but I am not putting $ in the calculation. Just the bike itself.
Take care my brothers and sisters of the congregation. I have ridden many thumpers. All Thumpers Are Cool.
My choice for the best thumper- KTM 690 Enduro R.
All the "old timers" I know have moved on to bikes with the magic button. I owned an XRR for a couple of years, and while it was a good bike, it falls short of some of the modern offerings. Where on the XRR, killing the bike meant kick, kick, kick, on new bikes you barely have to slow down. That can mean staying with the group or falling way behind on an aggressive group ride.
Now that's purdy. With the big bore kit, I bet it pulls like a frieght train.
An aside; I'm not a religious person but was raised Catholic in an Italian family. Your wall of crucifixes looks great. Adds an interesting dimension to the bike pic, as I'd imagine that bike could probably set up a meeting with your maker about as fast as anything.