The Vintage Trials Thread

Discussion in 'Trials' started by Garthe, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. TLtrials

    TLtrials Been here awhile

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    I haven't seen Mike P. in a couple of years. I always loved his Triumph Cub (he may have sold this when he bought the Matchless, I can't remember), and his Matchless is sweet too!
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  2. r2wtrials

    r2wtrials Been here awhile

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    I recently wrote an article for a magazine about a dealer who specialises in twinshock machines.. due to be published soon. But here is a quick picture of two of the bikes i had a play on from the shops stock..

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  3. r2wtrials

    r2wtrials Been here awhile

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    ... and from a previous article in the last Trial Magazine here i am on Steve Saunders 2011 SSDT pre65 winning Trifield... a quick dab on the blind side :)

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  4. Thumpermeister

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    Nice article. I rode a few events there many moons ago. A great venue. Sorry to hear of Dave's passing this year, he always put an an excellent event.
    Great to hear that the family has allowed competitions to continue there. I will have to get back.

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  5. prsdrat

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    These twin shocks are beautiful in their simplicity. Bring in on!
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  7. Brewtus

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    Couple more NMTA Twinshock pics-

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    And ATeamNM -

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  9. AteamNM

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  10. gasgasman

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  11. norton73

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    More pics (but not much more trials) here; Barber 2011
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  12. darmst6829

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    OK, I will ask. Why have you given up on AHRMA events?

    Dave
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  13. lamotovita

    lamotovita Ageing Adventurer

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    Well on a local level the events are lame, sloppily run and poorly laid out. The last event I rode (sept. 2011) featured 3 loops of 7 sections for a total of 21 rides. The whole event took about an hour and a half. The distance between the first and last sections was about 300 yards, despite the fact they had hundreds of acres at their disposal. The largest obstacle(in the expert line) was a railroad tie laying on the ground. Sections were laid out in the parking area where vehicles were driving, and parking, in the staging areas for the sections.
    I have ridden this event for the past 3 years and it's gotten more lame each year. Well before the event this year I talked to the Trial marshal and offered him the assistance of both myself and our local Trials club of about 50 members, to try and make it a better event this year, he opted not to take advantage of that offer.

    On a national level it's clear that AHRMA doesn't care about Trials or want to develope it further. They don't publish Trials results on their website, they refuse to make a class for 80s vintage twinshocks, despite the fact that they did for MX, and those are some of their fullest, most competitive, classes.
    Also they seem to be very lax, or selective, in enforcing their own rules. Walk through the pits and see how many bikes (both Trials and MX) you can spot that obviously exceed the 4" rear travel rule. A guy who builds his bike according to the rules is handicapping himself.

    Are you sorry you asked now?

    The good thing (I think) is that I've discovered that I dig riding vintage trials bikes! I was shopping for an MX bike to go with it. I just wish there was a better venue available to me for it.
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  14. Brewtus

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    Well now that just flat sucks.

    You know you are always welcome to come on down to New Mexico and ride with us! :thumb
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  15. Thumpermeister

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    Sadly, I've had similar feedback from those looking to ride and even organize vintage trials events in the northeast, where they seem to have no trials presence at all, and other organizations have had to pick up the slack. For areas where their interest and focus is they are very good, but make no mistake...the "R" in AHRMA stands for racing!
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  16. TLtrials

    TLtrials Been here awhile

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    I have been to good AHRMA trails events and lack luster AHRMA trials events too. I won't mention the lack luster events in particular, but it was dis-heartening to travel to an event not to be challenged and pretty much see the truck from every section.

    Although I have not been to one in about two years, in the past the best ones have been the first couple of years at Barber Motorsports Park and anything that Bob Ginder laid out. He used to layout Mid-Ohio before the AHRMA/AMA split and he had a two day event at his property in Tennessee. When you finished at day at Ginder's ranch, your body felt like you had just run a GNCC, good stuff!

    Bob has put a lot of effort into his International Twin Shock events, and the couple that I have been able to attend were very good and worth the travel. Sorry, it doesn't help you guys on the west coast with the long travel distance, but maybe a club out west can start something like the Twin Shock series.
    http://twinshock.org/
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  17. darmst6829

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  18. lamotovita

    lamotovita Ageing Adventurer

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    I don't want to rain on anyone's parade or discourage anybody (read my signature line). Any event will be as good, or as lame, as the people putting it on make it.
    I have no personal interest in 80s vintage bikes, I just see no reason to exclude them other than to discourage more Trials riders from competing.
    I've ridden three AHRMA events (all at the same location) and never been through a tech inspection.
    As to the 4" suspension thing, I saw what I saw, more than once.
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  19. AteamNM

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    We had about a dozen folks attend a vintage trials about 3 weeks ago. The guy who set the sections made them a bit too hard. I won somehow with 50 points. We also had a beer a loop, but that is a different story that Brewtus could explain better. I have ridden 2 AHRMA events, I don't recall a tech inspection?

    My suggestion is to host a vintage event, make it awesome and get people to show up, also have a modern class so those that don't own a vintage bike can also ride. Why not?
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  20. motojunky

    motojunky Professional Idiot

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    This is exactly what MAVT (http://www.mid-atlantictrials.com/Menu.html) does. Turnout is about 75% vintage I'd guess, and everyone gets along just fine. :thumb
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