The "wisdom" of pet trailers?

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by JustKip, May 8, 2013.

  1. JustKip

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    I'm NOT interested in a discussion about the merits and dangers of trailer towing on a motorcycle; please don't go there.

    My concern is for the dog, riding along 4 feet from the exhaust. I've seen a few trailers specifically designed for carrying pets, and if the dog is too big to ride ON the bike it seems like it could be a reasonable alternative to a cage or sidecar (Much less expensive than a hack too).

    I know most horse trailers follow close behind a diesel powered tow rig, but a horse's head is 6 feet above the tailpipe. Is it safe for the dog to ride in the slipstream of your liter bike in traffic?
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  2. Snarky

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    Is it safe for you to ride in the slipstream of hundreds of other cars? I wouldn't have it be enclosed trailer with openings up front, and I would probably leave the stock exhaust in place if it has a catalytic converter. Carbon monoxide is going to be the killer here. The unburned hydrocarbons have the same amount of chance of giving your dog cancer as you have as a rider. CO2 isn't going to be a big deal, it'll be the CO.
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    No body really knows....but the only way you could find out for sure without running the risk of killing phideaux (I'm from south of Pierre Part) is to buy the trailer, install a battery powered CO moniter from Lowe's/Depot, ride around and listen for the alarm.

    Dirty
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    i like dogs and can't figure out why anyone would seriously consider doing this to one.
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  5. JustKip

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    I'd love to hear in what way you would expect a dog to be harmed or traumatized by this?
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    I think it was mentioned early on to "not go there". So let's not.
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  7. JustKip

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    If I thought I was likely to wreck it I wouldn't do it at all, dog or not. If I was worried about it I'd be in a cage.
    I was hoping for intelligent conversation, yet the only argument against is pessimism about towing with a bike. Let's just pretend I value my own life too, and know how to ride :deal
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  8. Nitro1970

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    It would be interesting I'm sure...lol

    I used to have a little dog that loved to ride... Like hind legs in my lap and front ones on the tank bag... So if I had a big dog, I'd do the trailer thing... Yeah, hell yeah...
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  9. barko1

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    A newer bike should have very low CO emissions. Can't even kill yourself with the car running in the garage any more :D
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  10. Nitro1970

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    Electric bike perhaps?
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    Not sure I would do a long trip, but if you're just going for an occasional cruise I wouldn't see any harm in it. It's not like Fresno has great air quality anyways.... :rofl
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  12. Cromoth

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    Thank you for starting this thread; subscribed. We're close to getting a pup that should grow to 50-70lbs over maybe 2yrs. My 250 trailers my camping gear & I'd like to modify it to bring the dog. Gear can ride as 'pillion'. Trailer box is a 24Gal Rubbermaid Action Packer. Let me know if you need pix. A similar sized airline pet crate could be there instead.

    I don't think CO is a problem & a detector would be easy to verify. My concern is that droning noise from wind, muffler & knobbies. I doubt the dog will wear earplugs like we do. I can ask the vet, use doggles, design a good box, borrow a sound meter. Also, maybe add a sound deflecting plate near the muffler end. Here's the best dog trailer I've seen :eek1:
    http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21087699&postcount=96

    from Pics/Dogs on Motorcycles

    Dogs are pretty smart, given some patience. Why not let it choose? Tie something unique to the position it rides (trailer=bell, pillion=rag, car=rope). Take time to train & maybe it gets the association & can 'get' (picks up rag vs other 2) where it wants to sit for a joy ride. Google Kyra Sundance for a dog trainer.

    FWIW, you did a great job clarifying things in the 1st post. However, the title invites criticism of the idea. Maybe you want to change it or just ignore non-constructive criticism. Just trying to be helpful :lol3

    I don't want to trade for a hack just yet but it's so nice to just see each other or lean over for a pat.
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    i would expect that a dog being trailered in the exhaust trail of a motorcycle would suffer from carbon monoxide poisoning. probably not killed outright, but sick from the exposure, if back there for long enough. ask yourself if you'd place your toddler back there and ride for an hour. Yeah, hell yeah! .. you already touched on this in post#1 so don't be too suprised if someone else would also think, this is a bad idea.
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    I've copy and pasted the actual post into your quote.
    That's exactly the trailer I had in mind, and he's expressed what I think is a good strategy.
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    Well yes. That IS my concern, and why I started this thread. Yet they make some very nice trailers for doing exactly what I've asked about.
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    Thanks for the computer-fu. I could copy & paste pix but not lately. PM me how you got it to work?

    What size engine or how big a CO factory you ride? Are there other fumes, small 2-stroke?

    I think aerodynamics will solve any CO issue. Look at car air scoops, the kind that point forward & do not do that. Another version, maybe air ram, has the opening pointing to the windshield & still forces air into the engine by high pressure made by the windshield. So if the trailer fresh air is at the rear where the most diluted & freshest air is then you just need a CO monitor to confirm it's not a problem.

    Here's another design (similar to what I'll be modding) with a dog pictured. Nutz, there was a picture with their box & a bulldog inside & maybe a clear top but I'm getting x's http://www.trailtail.com/gallery.html If it works in Canada, why not here?
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  17. Nitro1970

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    What about the double decker cattle trailers pulled by a semi? Seems like those on top would be getting a nose full of diesel fumes...

    I think as long as its vented well so it could pull fresh air in and not let CO build up it would be fine...
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    I went from this:
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    He isn't actually in the crate at the time the picture was taken. When he is in the crate weather permitting I have something similar to this is placed on the crate.
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    The crate door faces the rear and the rear of the crate has it's vents blocked. I also added a longer tongue to move it back farther away from the pipes.

    Bob is a Border Collie and would simply not get in the crate if the noise or ride quality wasn't to his liking. He jumps right in and can't wait to go.

    Of course he can't tell me about the fumes, so a carbon monoxide detector is a great idea.

    This rig is used mostly for getting him to my camp which is about 5 hours away by highway. He goes up, runs around like a fool for a couple of days and then rides back. I don't think I would just take him on tour where he would spend days on end in the box.

    The sidecar had its positive points but my gas mileage was cut by close to half and in bad weather that was one miserable pup. He hated to wear any kind of gear such as an old sweatshirt or rain jacket.
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