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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Gregster, Jul 6, 2007.
You have a great opportunity!
Start a new thread and post more pictures.
I read the whole thread! Do i get a cookie? Seriously, love all the info. My XR600 loves it too. Now on to the "call all XR600R" thread! My bike is waiting for Christmas break so I can get back to 'er.
Have tried to find a thread on xl600r oil leakdown. My '86 which i have finally got running ( project!) after stator replacement wont show an oil level. Have filled with 2litres of oil as per this thread so i know its got some. Could someone help or direct me to a page? search dont seem to help much. Also does anyone have a tacho for this bike. Am in New Zealand and there does'nt seem to be one in captivity.
Ok guys my vacation is coming up in a few months.
Option #1: Cash out my vacation and dump all that money into my XL600. Looking to upgrade suspension and dump the rest the money into the engine
Option #2: Take my paid two weeks and go on a good, long ride. Something worthy of a Ride Report.
If I take option one, I do not know when the next time I will be able to go on a ride of more than a day for a year. Still going to joyride, commute sometimes and do my usual atleast once a week offroad day though.
The suspension is crap on this bike stock but, thats just 'cause its old. and I seen the fork conversions in this thread and others and I think that would be the biggest improvement I can make for the bike.
Perhaps the reason your not getting a reading on the dip stick is that the bikes oil capacity is 2.5 liters. Now go add that .5 liter of oil and report back.
I too have inquired around about an electric start XL600r, have considered an XL600m motor and even a whole XL600m, but the price and red tape to get one into the USA was beyond what I felt it was worth.
I still feel an electric start XL600 would make a great bike.
I'm a large Honda dual sport fan. I have more of them then I care to admit. Sudstituting an XR650L for a XL600r is not a viable alternative for most. The geometery, of the two bikes are quite diffrent and most importantly the seat height of 37 inches for the XR650l makes it uncomfortable to ride for those under 6 foot tall.
A reasonable compromise is an NX650, gret power, excelent transmission, seat height about the same as the XL600r and best of all ELECTRIC START. The problem is they have become hard to find and in some cases expensive. Fairing and plastic parts are difficult to find. The motor is the same basic motor as the XR650L uses today.
I would welcome a staright foward response for someone addressing how to make an electric start XL600r, I have one right now that is ready to go back together (it a frame and a motor presently).
I would like to know about a XL600m motor swap; some combination of xl600r and xl600m motor modification for a swap;
xl650L motor w swap; what will work?
There has to be an answer, I'm sure someone out there knows the answer. post it up there are folks interested.
I second that. Someone's got to have some experience with this... someone has done it, right? Tell us about it.
Yes we know it has been done.
I'll make up a post for ya
Thanks. There definitely seems to be some interest. It seems like there are a few, or more than a few, dudes on here who love riding these things but are either A) not athletic enough anymore to kick the damn things to life, or B) suffer from sort of injury that prevents it. It's a testament to people's feelings for these bikes that they are interested in an alternative.
That's what I'm saying. Mine starts in one or two stomps. I prime kick it a few times when cold with the decomp in so it's never a bear to get running. Before I went though everything it sucked, but now it's a piece of cake. Sure it takes longer than the magic button but it's never hard work. Also nice to not ever have to bust the battery charger out in spring or have to buy a new battery.
Just wait, you won't think its the same bike. But it will still start great.
Like others have mentioned, I would also suggest just leaving it kickstart and keeping it in good tune so it starts well.....or if the starting becomes enough of an issue, sell it and upgrade to an electric start.
Thanks Steve Ok now. Regarding the tacho is there maybe one from another model that will fit?
Don't know about tachs. Ours don't come with them.
Who has time to look at a tach??
Rev the piss out of it and shift.
I do it Hellen Keller style, I ride by feel...
I was going to do this and had a XR650L and a XR600R. The 600R would walk the 650L anytime plus the throttle response is night and day when compared against each other. The 650L's gearbox helped it but it was still wasn't even close.
Combine them and watch out. The XL will pull 15/45 gears easy anywhere with 650L geared bottom end. A NX650 bottom end is even a better choice.
The best way is to combine both bikes is to have them both. Do your build and sell off the leftovers.
The main issues with putting a XR650L into a XL600R frame aren't bad at all. The head bolts on the XL600 cylinder are one size smaller and the timing chain is wider. Since the XL600 bore is the same size as the 650L piston you could swap your cylinder and top end on. All you need to do is use the XR650L camshaft sprocket. Then swap over the 650L's electrical system and get a new light high output battery. Thats about it all it really takes.
It can be done many other ways to do this. Concider this post #1.
Using the XRL chassis is also an option. This is where the fun begins.
More to come...
I know I've brought this up more than once but I combined the XR650L bottom end with the XL600R top end in my project hybrid XL600. My problem was I didn't have enough battery power to spin it over with the high compression and no auto decomp.
Link; http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/50...20__hl__+xr650l +xl600r +hybrid#entry10309964
I would take the trip and upgrade later.
The XL600 suspension is not going to be any good until you get a fork brace. Do that and you might not need to do anything more except a fluid change. Try 15W.
Crobox, your shop (and projects on your site) Rule (s)!! Can I stop by on my way cross-country?
Option #3: Go for a one week ride, tent camp and/or meet up with some fellow inmates is possible. You'll save some money, maybe connect some faces to screen names and probably have some great rides on different trails you've never seen before. Then relax for a week and enjoy some good beer while you figure out what upgrades to do with the left over money.
I'll gladly provide any input and help I can. I have built several XL600's over the years.