The XL600 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Gregster, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. Zombie_Stomp

    Zombie_Stomp Aspiring human

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    What the hell are you talking about? A brand new, lifetime warranty Ricky Stator costs like $140!! Don't tell me you only know about OEM retail-prices stators!!
  2. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R SAND EATER

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    It's not that

    I got a baby coming in a couple weeks and I cannot shell out $140 for the foreseeable future, So I might just sell this beast and buy a gay 'lil 250 :ear But I will be disappointed when I roll the throttle back from now on. And I still got two years atleast before the bike is paid off and I don't wanna make payments on something I can't ride or afford to fix :puke1

    I still haven't looked it yet though. The lights failed after work last night around midnight, and I had to be at work again at noon today. Gonna look at it in the morning. I'm hoping I just lost ground. Hope the for the best but expect the worst, then you'll never be surprised :D I'm sure its a simple problem.

    Got lucky and found a stator my best friends '82 Kawasaki KZ750 for $30, Hopefully I can get lucky like that if its bad.

    I did see the strangest thing today, It was a CBR900RR with these MASSIVE engine guards on them. Looks like they would scrape pretty easily. It was like a fucking cage around the engine and it stuck out like 10 inches from the side. Gawd I need a cheap camera to keep in my backpack
  3. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R SAND EATER

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    Fuck it I'm going just fix what is wrong with it. it's too much fun :D

    I want a house with a garage dammit. this headlight problem bugs me as I commute at night and sometimes I offroad my way home. I need to make the headlight as reliable as the rest of the bike and I can't do anything til the morning.
  4. lookfar

    lookfar from the land of OZ

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    No point rushing into things, thinking the worst....check it out thoroughly before taking the leap.

    If you ask nicely, somebody on here probably has any spare parts that you may need, all you have to do is ask.

    I, for one, have a secondhand stator that I would be willing to part with for postage, but postage could be interesting from Australia :deal

    HTH
  5. m2h

    m2h "Old guys rule"

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    Hi Stretchah, Well i finally got back to my bike had very similar symptoms to yours. Pulled the motor out and took the head off with great trepidation! Turned it over and cleaned it up NO BROKEN SEATS:clapYah Heavy carbon on the inlets but exhausts looked a good colour. So WTF!! Pulled the ex. valves and the seats were ok but the vlv faces had small erosion marks all round. One inlet had similar marks but very minor and the back of the valve had some build up of greycrust. The other inlet was not too bad you coulse were it had actully been seating. My conclusion is that the valve clearances have been too tight on these valves and have been getting blow by on the firing stroke. I am hoping a valve grind will fix the problem. Anyone else have a theory? Need to measure the bore and piston next. There is some scoring on the forward wall that you can feel but the rest still shows hone marks. will need to borrow some micrometers etc. hopefully maybe another hone and rings:Dwill fix it all!!
    Just as an interest thing my Honda dealer quoted me as follows for parts ex Japan:
    Head gasket $NZ 64.00 100mm Head Stud bolt $14.60 Piston $178.54 Rings $133.89 Wrist pin $47.75
    How does that compare to the States?
    NZ exchange rate is around $0.80 US cents for our dollar at the moment.
    Hope you got your bike sorted out and your back on the road again!!
    M2h
  6. brucifer

    brucifer Long timer

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    Joel, you forgot one--the clutch arm shaft. :D Have to pull the cover to do that one.
  7. davek181

    davek181 Long timer

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    I would guess that your headlight ground went away. Mine did that once and I just ran an additional solid ground to the frame and all is well.

    According to the wiring diagram the headlight high beam indicator is on the same circuit as the headlight and powered by the high beam switch. If it works, you are getting switched power to the headlight circuit. Also take a look at the junction box where all the connectors meet near the ignition switch, pretty handy test point and weak link too.
  8. Stretchah

    Stretchah Been here awhile

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    M2H, Glad to hear it isn't the same issue :clap that's great news.... I'll leave it to one of the experts for other theories, but, it sounds like your on the right track and a good grind and clean up can only help, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you :D I'm based in the UK and a lot of the parts arseem to be quite expensive here, os, probalby wouldn't help much. THe heads being welded etc at the moment, os, hopefully not too long till she's back on the road :D
  9. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R SAND EATER

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    If the stator was bad, why would only the head light not work? my turn lights and brake light are as bright as ever. I'm feeling it is a bad ground.

    Anyway, I just woke up having some coffee and about to tear into this old beast. I don't know why I got so upset over this, I think I was stressed out from work the other night and my light going out = sad me :lol3 Now that I got my nerve back, I'll probably enjoy fixing this problem, I'm weird like that ha ha. I'll be back in a couple minutes to a couple hours depening on what I run into. I'll let ya'll know whats up.

    10:50AM EDIT: I took the fairing off and found my H-plug is melted and seemed to have disconnected itself from the head light. When i changed the H-plug the last time, the autozoner said the cheap one will eventually melt and burn so I should get the High temperature one. I shoulda listened but I thought he was just selling me on the more expensive one. d'oh! :ear
  10. cynicwanderer

    cynicwanderer Been here awhile

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    the headlight is on it's own AC circuit. it's separate from the turn signal/brake light and ignition. however, I think the blue instrument light, runs form the headlight circuit, but doesn't take much current to run it. if the connector is burned, you might want to check if the AC regulator is working, i.e. hook up a AC voltage meter and check if the voltage goes much above 14VAC when you rev it. higher voltage means more current in the light, and can cook the connector as well. bad/loose electrical connections, will also heat up the connector.

  11. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R SAND EATER

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    I think it just came loose it was just a $2.99 plug. I just fitted a hi-temp plug on it and the light is working. The plug is much better in quality too. I'm about to take my bike to uncle's so I can test the AC regulator like you suggested.
  12. Homerb

    Homerb Been here awhile

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    As for honda dealership prices, forget it. I bought all my parts, except for two honda only bearings, from powersports.com

    Much cheaper than honda for genuine parts. And same delivery time or faster than out of japan. As for pistons, I got a wiseco 0.5mm oversize for $160us, and that included rings and wrist pin!
  13. lookfar

    lookfar from the land of OZ

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    Just be careful with aftermarket o-rings and seals.
    Honda usually made their own, and are slightly different dimensions than similar commercially available items.:deal


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  14. noshoes

    noshoes soñando con México

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    I don't have it anymore, but took this one to Baja in 2000. Even had Jesse bags on it.

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  15. m2h

    m2h "Old guys rule"

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    Thanks for the reply
    M2H:D
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    m2h "Old guys rule"

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    Thanks for the info. will try powersports for some prices
    M2H:D
  17. davek181

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    I too found my local dealer willing to nearly match online prices and usually gets it to me quicker to boot. When you figure shipping it is even cheaper yet. They have been much more wiling to deal lately, I think they figure a small percentage of any sale is better than none at all.

    I really do want to support my local dealer so he will be around when I want to go drool on the new ones.
  18. joexr

    joexr Banned

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    One of my local dealers only places orders once a month to save on shipping. So if you came in at the wrong time , your stuff wont even get ordered for a month. Needless to say I dont order anything from them.
  19. davek181

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    We live in the wilderness here too, but my Honda motorcycle dealer still gets me parts in 2-4 days anyway. If it took much longer I would probably do it online too. I haven't bought anything for my Kawi lately to gauge their speed, same dealer though so that might be interesting.

    I think it is the times and consumer demands that is changing the way dealers think, from the top down. I work on import cars for a living and both Honda and Toyota can have you parts overnight without freight if you order by their time limit. Toyota's limit is about 10 or 11 AM, Honda will send their order about 3 PM. Honda runs their own truck that gets filled at the big warehouse in Portland and travels at night to different dealers. The dealer in Spokane gets his order at 3-4 AM, and the dealer down here about 6 AM. The truck then returns home to get refilled. Quite efficient I would say. I have literally ordered parts at 3 in the afternoon and had them in my hand shortly after 8 AM. Consequently though due to that my local dealer carries very little stock on hand, and me too for that matter.
  20. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R SAND EATER

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    The guy at the front desk at my local dealer told me they dont carry anything for a XL600R, it's just way too old:huh. I then asked for a filter for a 200X XR650L and he went in to the back grabbed one for me. I was dumbfounded :rofl and haven't went back since. Now I just go to my local bike shop and just say "I need an oil filter" and they already know what to get :D