The XL600 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Gregster, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. davek181

    davek181 Long timer

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    I have had the best luck with liberal usage of high temp moly paste on the back of the pads and all other moving parts. don't forget to lube the caliper pins
  2. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R SAND EATER

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    Hey guys I got another question. I just ordered a gasket kit for and new rubber seals for my XL. I'm wanting to pull the engine and stop all those damned leaks on the rocker cover and such.

    How much time should I set aside to do this? leaking oil is the ONLY problem this bike has :D
  3. crobox

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    Where is it leaking from specifically?
  4. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R SAND EATER

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    Should be easy fixes, Its just not gonna be fun pulling the engine. I just want an idea of how long it might take. I use my XL for trail riding and commuting and I want to be prepared when I do this so I have minimal downtime. I ordered a kit and I'm going to use as much of it as I can
  5. mcma111

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    At least six hours.
  6. Carter Pewterschmidt

    Carter Pewterschmidt Long timer

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    Or six days when you add in the "25 year old bike might have other broken/worn out things you find inside after you open it up" factor. :lol3
  7. mcma111

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    No, That was six hours to get the engine out of the frame.
  8. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R SAND EATER

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    just to pull the engine? I could see that.

    Well the engine is fresh, only about 5k miles on it since last rebuild. it just leaks a lil bit of oil and its quite annoying. The compression test was excellent, the cam chain didn't look stretched when I was chaning the clutch cover a while back. So hopefully I don't run into another problem. I was talking to a mechanic at my local bike shop a while back and he claimed to have a XL600 back in the late 80s in which the compression ring was broken in six places and it ran like a champ before he tore into it

    Damn, I'm gonna have my work cut out for me. My brother in law is a certified small engine technician and I will have his assistance in taking these leaks on. I think I might just wait til I get my taxes and build up this engine since I gotta pull it anyway.
  9. mcma111

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    No it shouldn't take six hours to pull the engine. I was just kidding. Since I don't know your wrenching capabilities I don't know how long it will take you. I can get the engine out in about an hour.
  10. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R SAND EATER

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    Lol okay good. I'm an okay/average home mechanic. You're an RFVC expert and I'm not. I had a good read on your XR650L engine rebuild thread. Takes you an hour, So I'm gonna put down 3 for me :lol3 After that it's just changing gaskets and thats not a problem. I've rebuilt the carbs, changed the clutch cover and rebuilt the forks with no real problems. Not scared to take this on, I'm just scared of not riding for a little bit lmao

    Any special tools needed for this? I think I might just need a torque wrench, right?
  11. mcma111

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    The only thing I use a torque wrench for is the cylinder and head bolts. I have a calibrated wrist...:lol3 :eek1 :lol3
  12. crobox

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    Well, Steve pretty much covered everything.

    Having just done much of this stuff myself, I would say that if you are focused, and have all your tools and parts lined up, you could get the engine out, gaskets and seals replaced, and engine back in, in a day to a day-and-a-half of work.

    Of course that's just an estimate, actual results may vary.

    Good luck! It's actually not too hard.

    -Christian
  13. Sierra Thumper

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    I wouldn't pull the motor unless its leaking oil like the Exxon Valdez. Not worth all the work over a few drops of oil imo unless you also build the motor up or do something else worthwhile at the same time. But then again I'd rather ride than wrench :evil
  14. Carter Pewterschmidt

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    Lol. Their is a certain dance you have to do with the engine to get it out. It has to be tilted a certain way, lifted out a certain direction, and one of the valve adjustment caps have to come off. The whole procedure is almost as obnoxious and just as particular as getting the airbox out.
  15. Carter Pewterschmidt

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    My problem is with oil leaks is the smell. My head cover gasket leaked oil into the spark plug well and when you'd sit at intersections all you could smell was burning oil. To me it's a terrible smell because of certain memories it brings back. I used to work on cars as a kid and every whiff of that I get reminds me of all the leaky old shitboxes I had to deal with.
  16. davek181

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    I know that smell and hate it too. The previous owner of my XL had taken off the breather and installed a miniture K&N looking filter there instead. Whenever I would stop you would smell that burning oil/blowby smell. I hooked it back up to the air cleaner and all was well with the world again. :rofl
  17. RFVC600R

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    It leaks pretty good, I gotta top the oil off every couple days. I cannot stand oil leaks, it's more or less a pet peeve for me.
  18. Sierra Thumper

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    It does sound like it might be worth the effort then......a little work now, but a lot of peace of mind later :nod
  19. davek181

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    It is not so bad to do. Just get the engine washed and ready, get yourself psyched and ready and it really goes fairly quick if you have all the parts on hand. I recommend Honda genuine seals and gaskets and a light skin of Hondabond on the top cover gasket. ( I almost never replace that one since it is steel, just clean it up and reseal it).

    If you are not pulling the head or cam, which it looks from the pictures that way, the whole job should take only about three hours without beer. :1drink
  20. brucifer

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    Would anyone like to see a Cycle World test of the "new" 1983 XL600R? I'll scan it and post it up if there's interest.