The XL600 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Gregster, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. Dread_lion

    Dread_lion Been here awhile

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    Hey guys! Wow, that was fast! I was hoping it would be this simple, but since i didnt know what was in those regulators, i wasnt shure.
    Anyway, i think i found a scource for a cdi not too far from here, and maybe even part of the wiring of an xl600r, so this might get done real soon.

    I appreciate your help guys, this forum really is THE place to be!

    About the old motor, its not running anymore i'm afraid, it needs lots of work! This summer i just want to get the bike on the road again, and i'm running out of time!
    So thanks a bunch for saving me, again ;). I'll keep you posted on the results!
  2. crobox

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  3. RFVC600R

    RFVC600R SAND EATER

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    Now that is pretty cool. Sucks that it impacted handling so bad though! Hey you know how to weld, I got an extra gas tank you can hack up and modify for a few extra gallons, then you can paint it to your scheme.
  4. mcma111

    mcma111 Long timer

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    It's a motorcycle not a pack mule. :dhorse
  5. davek181

    davek181 Long timer

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    I have been trying to convince Christian that he needs heavy duty (truck) springs with his upcoming suspension mods. :deal
  6. TahoeRider

    TahoeRider Red Rider

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    I could use a set of pre-92 XR600 forks and shock if you guys still have any for sale. The suspension on my '83 XL could definitely use some improvement :D


    edit: I forgot I had a couple pics to share. Mostly stock still with the exception of an 18" supermoto-ish front wheel/fender and some minor farkles.

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  7. crobox

    crobox Been here awhile

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    HAHA you guys are funny!!

    Yeah, Steve... I learned that the hard way!!

    RFVCR600.... yeah I've thought about hacking up a tank... not a bad idea. What do you want for it?
  8. brucifer

    brucifer Long timer

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    I have a set of forks I just rebuilt with new bushings and seals. The lowers were glass beaded and painted silver with a clear coat by my buddy who works as a body man/painter. No rust on the chrome anywhere. PM me if interested.

    Nice XL you have there. :thumb
  9. Homerb

    Homerb Been here awhile

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    Well, Ive cocked up big time. Yesterday I drowned my XL. By drowned I mean completely submerged it in about 3 feet of water. This was taken just before it went under!
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    Engine wasn't running when it went under. When I got it out I tried to restart it, but no go. Had to leave it in the bush and walk 5km out, where a mate picked me up and drove me home. Picked the bike up this morning, put it on a trailer and took it home. Oil in the crankcase is milky white so heaps of water got in somehow. Also water in the carbs. Carbs drained, oil drained as well. Some water got into the frame too. Ive poured a couple of litres of diesel into the head and frame and sprayed inox down the plughole.
    Drained the diesel after cranking the engine over a couple of dozen times.
    I've still got a good spark so the dunking hasn't damaged the electrics it seems.
    I plan to repeat the diesel flush at least two more times, before filling with cheap supermarket oil and hopefully starting it. I'll change the oil and filter a couple or three times before I ride it and keep a close eye on the oil colour. Any other tips for resurrecting a drowned engine?
  10. lookfar

    lookfar from the land of OZ

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    OH NO!!!!

    Give the electrics a good going over with a water dispersant spray, Inox, Lanotec or similar.
  11. davek181

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    Years ago after getting tired of one hundred mile range of fuel I finally snagged a tank off eBay to try and see if I liked it. It was a Clarke 4 gallon tank. I was worried that it might be too big, too heavy, too ugly to live with so I didn't want to pay full price for a new one in case that was true.

    Well I loved it. The weight was not really a problem, I loved the range it provided, it did not intrude into my personal space very much if any. It was ugly though. Not so much the fit or design, but the color. It was made for a red XL and mine was an 87, white bike with red engine. I know some call that in itself ugly believing that Honda's should all be red as God intended them to be, but I kinda like it.

    My own wife called my bike an abomination, a bike only an idiot home tuner type would ride, a term she learned way back in the bike shop days. She figured the only way I could ride it is if I were led up to it blindfolded. I didn't quite share that opinion but I had to agree it was a little ugly. I so loved the fact that I didn't have to stop at the gas station nearly as often that I kept it on permanently. I originally figured it would be my adventure tank only and I would keep the original on it otherwise, but that proved too troublesome since I did not have two petcocks, or the ambition required for constant tank changing.

    Fast forward to this month. Steve in SF, a fellow inmate we all recognize from these pages got the urge to clean out the closets at home so to speak and offered up a Clarke tank to fit an XL that he had gotten tired of moving around in the box, unknown color. I sent a PM and he opened the box to look and found it to be white. After agreeing to what I considered a very reasonable price, cash changed hands and it was on it's way here.

    I opened the box, cleaned it up, transferred petcocks and installed the tank, heck it even came with graphics already installed. I think it transformed the bike. It went from really really ugly to just normal XL ugliness. All my friends compliment the change, I didn't realize they hated the red one so much till now. The bike even seemed to notice the change. I swear it is running better than ever.

    Not to tease without eye candy (?) I have posted a couple of pics of the new improved and I think prouder XL for you to enjoy. Now if I could only do something about that red fender....

    Dave
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  12. davek181

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    I would pour liberal amounts of diesel into the engine as well through a valve adjuster hole and swirl it all around. Maybe lay the bike on its sides to cleanse the top end to. Pull the float bowls and clean, spray, blow as much as you can. Drain the tank and refill with fresh fuel with lots of alcohol in it. (the only time you might ever hear me say that statement). Flush lots of fuel through the carb and lines with the drains open.

    Wheel bearings should be ok since they are sealed, but I would pull the wheels and look it over, wash out the sediment and sand. Clean and oil the chain, cables, brake pivot, and anything else you can find.

    Refill with fresh oil and run it till warm. change oil immediately while warm and let drain completely, might even pull valve caps and let it air out again too.

    If oil looks clear after all this I would still change it a couple of times maybe after a tank of fuel is burned out.

    Bummer that it happened but I think it will be fine in the end. I have even resurrected a submerged car in the past with no ill effects. The real important part is to do it quick, don't let it be wet long.

    Dave
  13. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

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    The bike looks great. Rocky Mountain has a bling bling billet gas cap for that tank. I got two for each of my Clarke tank bikes.
  14. Skomoroh

    Skomoroh Adventurer

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    heh, need to read the forum more often.
    Was going to ask about XR650L forks and found an answer on last two pages...
    Don't know why it was told that 650 axle size is a problem...
    XR600 (and think that XL600Lm too) uses 6202 bearngs in the wheels.
    bore, 15mm OD 35mm, width 11mm
    Xr650L has 17mm axle. We can just put 6003 bearing instead of 6202 to the wheels.
    It's 17-35-10. 1mm is not a problem - we always can install a spacer.. or not install anything - it's not critical.
    Other question - if XL600-XR600 brake caliper can be installed on XR650L fork?

    And one more:
    Is there an easy and practical way to increase rear wheel travel ?
    Maybe the rear shock from XR600R ?
    But i've heard that XR have longer swingarm and same shock travel, so without changing the swingarm it will not help.
    Sounds this true ?
  15. davek181

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    I have done bearing and seal swaps as you mentioned, you need a matching 17mm speedo drive too if you want to use the stock speedo. might need an XR/XR650L/R speedo cable depending on how long your forks grow.

    Brake calipers interchange around quite well, but I don't know specifically if the 650L will bolt right on. My bike pictured above has CR125 USD forks with an XR250 wheel with bearing swaps and an XR650L caliper mounted on the CR125 caliper mount. So, yeah it's pretty likely you can make it work if it doesn't bolt right on. If not, eBay abounds with calipers that will.

    If you put on longer forks, even if you don't, the XR shock will fit right on and it is roughly 1/2" longer so you will get more travel and height from that. My bike as pictured has an XR rear shock and swingarm with an Eibach 11.5kg spring on the shock. The shock alone will give you more travel since it is a little longer.
  16. Skomoroh

    Skomoroh Adventurer

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    Great, thanx for the info.
    And what about xr650l shock ?
    Are there chances it will fit ?
    Fiches look almost identical, but there can be problems with sizes...
  17. davek181

    davek181 Long timer

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    According to the microfiche I looked at the 650L has a reservoir attached to the shock body like the late XR600. It will not work on a twin carb bike. Lengthwise it would probably be very similar to the late and early XR600 I would think. Race tech lists the spring for the L as 11.0 kg which would be a good one for an XL compared to stock, but really just a little light stilll.
  18. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

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  19. TahoeRider

    TahoeRider Red Rider

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    Nice bike Dave, it looks great with the new tank. What are you planning to do with the red one? It would probably look pretty good on my '83 :D
  20. lookfar

    lookfar from the land of OZ

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    Looks nice Dave.

    There is a white rear fender on ebay at present, not original, one of the DC plastics ones.

    See here
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Rear...rcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f2707d122