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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Gregster, Jul 6, 2007.
Where are you located? I like getting cheap cooked XL600 engines.
sorry, my bad Zombie STOMP
This is my ride, took her out the other day and damn does it pull. The previous owner said it was jetted, and I changed the oil, and the front tire (couldn't loosen the rear rim). I took off the spring that connects the rear brake to the switch because it would stick sometimes otherwise I am quite the happy guy. I couldn't take the bike far from home because my road test waiver still hasn't gotten here from MSF, come on its been 5 weeks now and there have been way too many beautiful days.
Alexandria, LA (71303). She's all yours.
Maybe you'll still have it in a few years. I plan on living in Shreveport at some point in my life. Unless you feel like packing it up.
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Maybe this could work for you
Pardon if I've posted something like this here already. I keep adding things to the bike and the list of things to be done all the time! Not that it needs a lot of attention, but let's just say I'm a bit obsessive.
Here is the 1983 XL that I rode across the USA from NC-WA, then XR-ified:
In my new Pacific NW driveway:
Next to a friend's "re-issue" classic-styled triumph scrambler:
After a re-ride of the Portland Alley Sweeper "Urban Enduro" :
-1998 XR600 engine with the original '83 dual carb head fitted
-FMF stainless exhaust ("stainless" my arse!)
-XR forks with XR650L upper triple clamp for key ignition, custom mounting brackets and "custom" steering lock hammer bashing to get it to work with the XL frame (a little friendly persuasion of the steering lock tabs to make them align just enough! )
-custom-made raising link in the rear
-custom made nylon chain slider (new OEM ones cost $60USD! At best!)
-I extended the kickstand and made a new slightly larger foot for the end (not shown)
-XR350 front fender
-custom-built rack by myself, with another better similar one to follow soon.
-XRs only temperature gauge dipstick. Need a different arrangement, not only is oil leaking into the gauge face, bit there is a typo! There is no apostrophe in the plural form of "XR"! Something with a remote thermocouple from a plug-welded threaded adapter in the oil reservoir up to a backlit gauge on the dash would kick some ass!
-Renthal handle bars
-modded spitfire windshield with a new sheet of Lexan to be custom molded soon. The first "mod" to the windshield done by my slippery Anakees plus the sandy Los Angeles trails, the "fine tuning" done in Fully Geed's garage in the bay area a little firther along on my trip!
-Coming soon: 1mm oversize Wiseco 9:1 forged piston!
wow joel that xr suspension is really tall, unless you are really short .....dont think so.
i was thinking of doing a similar thing with mine but after seeing that height im not sure. i like the height of the xl. but sometimes the ride is a bit harsh, also theres alot of squeaks coming from the rear shock and swing arm that unlimited amounts of wd40 dont seem to be able to cure. but the fork seals that i installed havent leaked at all in nearly 15k kms. remarkable considering that even though i asked plenty of questions and advrider and had the workshop manual i followed NONE of the advice given and did it in the way that the manual SPECIFICALLY said not to do......go figure.
whats going on with your valve timing?
Ever ride an XR650L? It's like that now but a bit shorter and more manageable.
What you need to do with your rear suspension squeaks is get a greae gun and USE IT on those grease zerks. I would really recommend taking it apart (the linkages) and scrubbing the pivot buhings out with some solvent though, because if it is squeaking, there is probably burnt-looking friction-hardened caked-on grease like there was in mine. That's what I discovered when I took out the link to put in the raising link, and it wasn't even squeaking. This is the most oft-neglected part of maintenance. I greased mine and left NC and 5k later it was like that. Finally it started squeaking a couple days ago nd my machinist and I tried greasing everything and it still squeaked. We realized we had forgotten the main pivot bushing where the biggest bolt in the whole bike is located, but it still squeaked. So off I rode, mystified. He had concluded that it probably needed to be "ridden out", and sure enough, it was gone the next time I checked it. The grease seems to have worked itself in there. SO GREASE IT!
Nothing's going on with my valve timing anymore, I put the freshly rebuild '83 dual carb head back on there. (An oem head block, valves, and and valve guides with only about 1,000 mi on it.)
But as you may have gathered from my visit to the machinist, I now have an extra XR cylinder of mine bored out with the matching wiseco 1mm oversize piston! That is because I did not have the money at the time of the head swap recently to buy the piston and do the whole top-end at the time, but now i went out on a limb and dropped all that I had on it, and it will be great to have a bike that idles reliably on it's own at the stoplights without having to apply choke. The quality of riding will improve phenomenally.
Oh yeah, GREASE IT!
What is the benefit of adding XR forks? I realize that they're taller and maybe softer? Any other reason?
DAMN IT ALLTO HELL
So I'm about a mile away from home practicing some slow speed maneuvering in this big parking lot and I hear a slight hiss from the engine so I shut it off. When I go to start it up again, the kick starter doesn't want to move down. I eventually give it a good kick and down it goes but instead of the compression holding the kicker, i get nothing. I tried kicking and nothing. Thekicker turns the engine when in gear but nothing. Couldnt even bump start it and i had to push her home over a metal grate bridge and up a couple of hills.
Added some new rubber to our XL660's....Shinko 244's.
Here is my '85 XL600 (along with my '08 WR250R).
I've had it about 2 weeks. The PO said it had been bored out to 650cc about 800 miles ago...is there any way to know this for sure (without a complete tear down)? If it has been bored how much oil does this engine now require? Also, The blinkers don't work at idle only when the engine is running a bit faster. Is this normal, do I need a new battery or something?
Love this bike and love this thread! You guys are great.
thats one purdy xl but i think it isnt an 85 model as they had completely black engines and not red cosmetics i think. it might be an 83 or 84? oh and the blinkers sounds like a burnt rectifier if it isnt the battery. mines doing the same after charging my phone/ipod and battery for my whole trip.
According to the VIN it's an '85. Had the blue seat, yellow stickers, Red/White/Blue wings. Here is a pictures from when I picked it up.
The PO did say it's had some engine work... though I'm not exactly sure what
ah ok, it might have the head off a red engined one as the rest of the engine looks pretty black.
how many ks? the most difficult parts to get for these bikes are probably the plastics but looks as if youve already got them sorted!
not that im an expert but i wouldnt imagine that the big bore would need much more oil, as long as you use good quality oil and change it every 1000miles or so. what changes the capacity is adding an oil cooler, mine added about 200ml so not much and i still put exaclty 2 litres in every change, but theres probably a bit left over of the old oil when i do that though.
if it doesnt have a temp gauge please get one. almost every wrecker ive been to to get parts has said that all the air cooled honda singles they get in have seized because morons have run low oil and seized them.
Thank you for the help! It does not have a temp gauge, where could I find one? Is there one you would recommend?
XRs Only (search) has a temp gauge dipstick. I ran mine hard for 5,000 miles and it ws nice to know my temperature along the way. I had a scare a couple times where I didn't have enough oil to reach the dipstick and it was getting cooler as I ran it harder and I was like, waitaminute... Oil capacity is the same for a big bored engine. It is hard to tell if the PO was just BSing, but it should be possible to fill the combustion chamber through the spark plug hole with a liquid with the piston at BDC and pump it back out and measure the volume of it to find the volume. I've never done that, don't use water if you do. Unless he had an empty box from the oversize piston and a trustworthy look in his eye, I'd say you'll have to wait a few thousand miles before you find out for sure. Heck, even an XR650L doesn't have the power of an XR600, just because the compression on the 650s sucks.
I'd be able to tell if I were to ride it for ya!
I'd be able to tell if I were to ride it for ya! [/quote]
What, Is this your seat of your pants Dyno???