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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by sharkey, Sep 27, 2007.
Daayyyuuum. Pretty bike.
IT LIVES! Started my XLV this afternoon, the engine's been sitting on the workbench for 2 years, but after a bit of a crank it started up on one (oh no!) and then both (oh yes!) cylinders!
Beemer Boy: Nice, but 250,000 THB =~ 8,900 AUS =~ 8,000 USD which is well and truly over the odds for any eighties bike IMHO.
If you can get your hands on one... do it... It has become more or less a 'classic' these days and there is a grand XLV750R International Meeting coming up for 2008 in Switzerland (August).
I've got 2, and currently working to get the HRC version (the one with the red engine) restored. I made the story for the Varadero forum, but I think it would be nice to share it with this forum as well:
Last year we started the restoration of our 2nd. XLV 750R HRC. We = me and my Brother-in-law, which is a Laverda enthusiast (he owns 2, a newish model and a classic 2-cillinder).
The XLV 750R HRC Paris-Dakar
The HRC XLV is stored in the farmhouse of Karindas Brother Anton, and since he got all the tools (advisable if you are an enthusiast of old Italian motorcycles
!) we kicked of.
Although the bike looks a bit rusty- the spikes in the wheels, the rear suspension, and the exhaust system it isnt that bad at al. The bolts where all sealed with cupper grease and easy to dismount; and although the bike has not been used since December last year, the battery was still fully loaded, the air filter brand-new. The oil is rather black, so we have to get the engine running and replace it before riding the bike. Ive took of the Givi wingrack (it will not be re-installed, for luggage capacity we have both our Deros!), any one interested?
The feultank after renovation
Took the fuel tank off, and again a surprise. The framework looks good; the tank hasnt got any rust. I just collected it today after the paintwork has been sealed by a special company. The sealing is a hard
waxed transparent layer which has been coated on the original paintwork. It is the best possible rust protection money can buy, rather expensive
(50 Euros for the job) but cheaper as a repaint in original colours. And isnt it the state of originality which gives a (semi-) classic bike additional value?
Got a picture of the result below, including a pic of the bike as we found it last year (November 2003) and the Limited (with on the background my wife her ex- transalp)
The engine and exhaust system are a different story. The engine is painted in Honda- HRC red, but I have discovered that it had a bad repaint recently with some cheap paint from a local home improvement store. Due to the heat of both the cylinders (the XLV is air cooled like an old Volkswagen Beetle or a Citroën 2CV) the paintwork is completely burned. This was also one of the problems of the original paint used in 1984, but
today we can buy better systems which can stand more heat. Have to get the colour right, but a repaint of the engine is last important.
The exhaust system is rare and not available anymore. Although they are covered in rust for almost 75%, I will try to get them cleaned. The mufflers are the different part due to the shape they have been designed,
but the front part of the system should be re-build easily. A company near to our town is advertising that they can design and build any exhaust system for any car and motorcycle in stainless steel, so if the quality is
too bad to restore, I will have to ask them for a fair price for a re-build.
The XLV 750R Limited
The spokes in both the wheels are covered in rust and have to be replaced by stainless steel spokes. The job, done at the XLV 750R Limited I already own, is near to perfect, so we will take the wheels out. Gives us a change to have a proper look to the brakes as well; the XLV has a drive shaft like a Honda NTV Revere with drum brakes rear and a single piston disk brake front.
The rims are now fitted with new spokes - stainless steel - and the result is perfection:
The exhaust system, for which I feared that they would be completely absorbed by rust have been cleaned and surprise, surprise... underneath the layer of rust, the exhausts are almost 100% conserved! The original system is not available anymore... And if you would stumble up to one, they are EXPENSIVE!
We moved on further and stripped the frame and the rear fork with the shaft drive. They will be cleaned up as well, before they will get a new layer of Powder coating. It will be better as a traditional re-paint and looking at the pictures below, you will notice that the rear fork has suffered:
The engine and the exhaust will be repainted by - don't laugh at me... - a Harley expert, because the Harley V-2 is also air-cooled, just as the 750cc twin of the XLV. This specialist has developed a procedure on which he can re-paint the parts in any original colour and heat resistance!
The question I need to ask the lot of you: I do need desperately two original PRO-LINK stickers for on the rear fork... They are not available any more... Can anyone of you help me out?
We moved on with our restoration project! Last Thursday I received the engine, front forks and exhaust back from the paintshop (http://www.motopaints.nl). They did a superb job!
I already received the frame and rear fork back from the coating company, and if you compare the pics of it below with those I have posted earlier on this topic, it is a huge difference!
The engine was taken apart for the job and his 'internal' parts are in a 200% condition. Only the clutch has to be renewed and the dynamo has to be rewinded.
I am very happy regarding the quality of the exhaustsystem. The original is not available anymore... And very expensive. It was one of the 'bad quality' parts of the bike. It is even hard to find a original XLV 750R, and even harder to find one with a good, original exhaust system!
Here are the pics... We will move on with our little project after the summer recess... Btw... I managed to buy a 3rd XLV750R HRC for only € 900... For the parts!
The Frame after it has been powdercoated
The exhaust system, welded and fitted with a new, heatresistand paint
The engine, cylinderheads and front fork back in Honda HRC 'racing' red!
Damn straight...it might be shiney but there's dust on the fork boots!
It took some time, but I started the progress on the restoration of the XLV 750R. The engine is now been completely rebuild, the only thing to make it 100% close to the original is sandpapering the outside rim of the cooling ribs. On the original they are not covered in paint, but it was cheaper to repaint the complete engine, and sandpaper the cooling ribs after by hand.
Enjoy the pics, the engine looks that good with new sealings
I would even put it on the living room table
Only if Karinda would allow me to do so
We are getting close now!
Next step has been taken... The 'Marriage' between the engine and the frame!
Remember the shape the engine was in:
You can see the 'blue' coating from the Technoflex rear shock. As at the front suspension, the rear suspension was air- supported. But I considered pumping 2 Bar of air in to a 23 year old unit as not the wise thing to do...
To my surprise Technoflex still delivers a brand new rear shock unit - adjustable! - for the good old XLV 750R; so I did not have to think twice and ordered two; the one on these pics and the other one is already installed in the XLV 750R Limited.
With the original rear suspension the bike started to shimmy at 130 km/h max, with the technoflex unit I can easily top the Vmax of the bike - 160 / 170 km/h; ca. 100 miles/hr - and it remains stabile like a rock. It is just like any other Varadero! ;D
The only thing missing riding at those speeds is the fairing and a screen!
Wow, Two Plugs, that's one tidy job. Kind of the anti-me, I just whacked it all together out of the best bits I could find, splashed a bit of kill-rust silver paint on the worst bits of the frame but otherwise left it alone!
How much were the Techoflex shocks? I put a Bitubo in mine, expensive but a great improvement!
Have you had any luck improving the forks? Considering RaceTech emulators, wondering if anyone has done it yet.
Wow! Cool bikes and great work!
I think early XR's and CR's had Pro-Link stickers...have you tried checking for those?
There's places which will make up custom stickers for you, well there are in Australia anyway. If you want I can get a good close-up photo and measurements of any stickers you want to get made up.
UPDATE: here 'tis.
Could you provide me with an URL / e-mail address of those companies? I tried here, but got only 'NO' for an anwser... Would appreciate it!
Btw... There is an original XLV for sale near London, UK:
Götz has got them: Götz shop link.
Also, a guy on the german XL600 forum once scanned the stickers. I saved and hosted them for you:
I'm sure there are copyshops/printshops somewhere in Holland who specialise in car graphics and can make you a set of those.
Hope this helps!
Tnx guys for all the kind help... Since it will take a few more weeks (months I hope) before winter gets here, I will be riding and pick up the restoration project early December / January. I will visit the link and make some enquieries to get those stickers here as well...! I will keep you posted.
Nice Job Two Plugs! Good to see someone preserving those interesting XLVs. Here's an old photo of mine (now sold) with a Kawasaki KLR650 fairing.
When I started lurking on this thread, thinking about getting an "adventure bike," the XLV was what I fell in love with. The rareity in the states made it all that more enticing. I found 2 in HI, and one in CA for sale. Ultimately I decided to get something else and have been happy with that choice. But, given enough room, and th oportunity, I would still like one of these bike for shits and giggles. Great job on the resto!
There is a large XLV750R International Meeting scheduled for August 2008 in central Europe (Switzerland) where the 25<SUP>th</SUP> anniversary of this Africa Twin / Transalp / Varadero predecessor will be celebrated. We participated to the 20<SUP>th</SUP> anniversary meeting a few years ago and although it was a long ride from the north, it was well worth visiting!
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More info at www.xlv.ch
This whole thread has me even more pissed at Honda...
jbrownmxr: Got any links to te ones you found?
THis was several years ago. Basically spent a lot of time on the computer and found two in HI, and one in CA. There are a couple of Yanks here
Today we had a little ride out with our provincial departement of the Dutch Transalp- Africa Twin and Varadero club and altough the weather was kind of shitty, I decided to leave the mighlty Dero in the garage and took my 2nd XLV .
We made a 100 mls ride (167 km) in to Germany, to a famous place called the Bike Motel, where you can eat realy GIANT Schnitzels including feggies, french fried and potatoes for only € 7,50:
I'm the guy sitting at the end of the table with the gray fleece jacket.
The place to be:
And although the weather protection of the XLV750R is rather crap, my biceps have increased a full inch tnx to the return to the Netherlands with strong headwind on the German motorway I really LOVE this ancient Honda big trail bike!
Waiting for a traffic light in the middle of nowhere... Strange guys, those Germans...
Best mod I have done: replacing the original airsuspended rear shock unit for a Technoflex unit (as on the model which I am working on in the postings above).
Will make some pictures tommorow before I clean the bike. Its a beauty. Even when its dirty!
With special tnx to Marco and Hans for providing the pics!