The XT1200Z Super Tenere Link Thread MKII

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by GrahamD, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. sallydog

    sallydog AVERAGE 80.69 MPD for 41 months

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    the tenere is more comfortable than the 800gs and 1200 gsa. more dirt worthy and easier to flick around. and about 10G cheaper
  2. AL-58

    AL-58 BMWs make good landfill

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    The point was not the price but that the Super Tenere headlight is plastic and is highly unlikely to break in the first place, it doesn't need a cover anyway. The glass BM headlight smashes easily.

    Al
  3. GrahamD

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    Added Ride On ADV custom work etc to the Accessories and Upgrades (Farkles) section and to the
    "Open Source Development" since they are kind enough to show the progress on this site.

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    v8turbo When in Doubt.... Gas it.

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  8. Salvo

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    Almost pulled the trigger on a 2012 XT last week, test drove it, wow, must say super comfortable, nice riding position. Despite the say "average" hp, the parallel twin puts out (sign of the times) it felt great. Given I'll likely use it on road mostly, and we're at the the end of the 2012 year, 2013 models just around the bend, willing to wait and see what the new year offers. Honda V4 CrossTourer (I know, basically a street bike) but love the V4 motor, I'd be willing to bear the pain of that bland Honda look. Too bad that KTM's supposed 2014 1200 Adv is too far away. We'll see....
  9. Salvo

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    " For hitting roads less traveled, and in particular ones that aren’t paved, none of the others can match the Yamaha Super Ténéré. It doesn’t shine on the street; it’s solid and comfortable but never thrilling. But if you envision in your future a scenario that includes 600 yards of mud and ruts on an isolated mountain pass at nightfall, this is your bike.
    But most of us don’t actually end up in that scenario. Which is why the Multistrada was the number-one choice for all of our testers. It offers class-leading power, great suspension, awesome brakes, nimble handling and all-day comfort." - Cycle World - Adventure-Touring Comparison – The Asphalt Adventurers Aug 2012

    Thats the thing, for guys like myself, most of our riding will be on the street, so the "best" Adv Tourer may be something like a Duc MS, or of keen interest now, the possibility of a Honda V4 CrossTourer?
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    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    It is interesting to note, however, that "Cycle World" did pick the Yamaha Super Ténéré over all others for "Best Adventure Bike" in their "Ten Best" list for 2012, where they said the following (page 49, Oct. 2012, Vol. 51, No. 10):

    Now that said, it's no secret that I don't place much credence in what any motorcycle magazine puts out... Take how the Yamaha FJR "won" the "Cycle World" sport touring comparison shootout for years against an unchanged Honda ST1300, then one year - *POOF* - the ST1300 suddenly "wins"!!! :lol3

    What really matters is the Super Ténéré is a fantastic, quietly competent, wonderfully versatile motorcycle. Is it the "best" one for you? Only you can answer that... :wink:

    Dallara




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  11. GrahamD

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    There have been a few users experience the dreaded "hard start".

    There is a particular set of things that have to be done to induce this.

    Since I have never had this problem I was keen to see whether I could induce it by running through a few scenarios that have led to it...

    This is a bit of a log to see whether I could nail down the important parts.

    First day was just running through a few of the ideas that had been floating around. (sped up so it doesn't drag on too long)

    20th Jan 2013
    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EAkW0aaph-c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    That was a complete fail as far as the hard start goes.

    But often people talk about the bike being left for a few days after fiddling or washing.

    Well after 2 1/2 days of sitting without the bike being touched and that includes not charging the battery...

    23 Jan 2013.
    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4cN7HrZ0OqE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Now it was cleared pretty easily by going for 1/2 throttle, Some go Wide open and it clears.

    After the last video I gave the battery a good rest and a charge.

    24 Jan 2013
    Started fine. Starting to think it is a combination of a slightly flat battery, cold bike and being left after some short runs.

    26 Jan 2013

    Last hard tests...
    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/q1Mcvoc7sgc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Pretty clear how it happens, pretty clear how to clear it. Put it down to modern closed loop FI. Also note that after the ECU "thinks" the engine has fired , probably from the initial burst of engine acceleration, it turns the headlight on. If you want to save some battery life cycle the ignition again and the headlights will turn off again. No point burning 100W for no reason. It may be a part of the problem.
  12. GrahamD

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    Differences between the 2013 XT1200Z and the 2014 XT1200Z and ZE (Europe), according to YAMAHA

    2014 XT1200Z
    Refined engine with 112PS (82.4kW) @ 7,250rpm and 117 Nm
    &#8226;Enhanced D-MODE switchable mapping characteristics:
    &#8226;More relaxed and easy feeling in &#8220;T&#8221; mode
    &#8226;More exhilarating and exciting sport riding in &#8220;S&#8221; mode
    &#8226;Enhanced driveability from mid to high speed range
    &#8226;More enjoyable feeling during acceleration and at higher rpm
    &#8226;Smoother shifting up and down between 2nd and 3rd gear
    &#8226;New: Manually-adjustable 4-position screen with GPS holder
    &#8226;New: Cruise Control for more relaxed long distance touring
    &#8226;Enlarged intake and exhaust ports
    &#8226;Lighter camshaft assembly
    &#8226;Redesigned piston rings
    &#8226;New exhausts
    &#8226;Enhanced shaft drive damper assembly
    &#8226;New rubber clutch damper adopted
    &#8226;Reduced weight
    &#8226;New: LCD instruments with multi-function display
    &#8226;New: Gear Position Indicator
    &#8226;New: Compact LED flashers
    &#8226;New: Extra protection cover under headlights
    &#8226;New: Tapered aluminium handlebars
    &#8226;New: Handlebar crown and bar holder
    &#8226;New: Enhanced more upright riding position
    &#8226;New: Redesigned 2-tone stitchless low-profile dual seat
    &#8226;New: Tail cover
    &#8226;New: Small muffler protector
    &#8226;New: Redesigned forged aluminium sidestand

    In addition the 2014 XT1200ZE has..

    &#8226;Electronically adjustable front and rear suspension
    &#8226;Total of 84 potential suspension settings
    &#8226;Grip warmers fitted as original equipment
    &#8226;Top case base
    &#8226;Assist grip
    &#8226;Main stand (Centre Stand)

    Intruments

    2013
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    2014
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  13. Kawidad

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    excellent work :devildog
  14. sallydog

    sallydog AVERAGE 80.69 MPD for 41 months

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    that sure is nice
  15. William42

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    Nice job GrahmD. As always.
  16. silverspurs

    silverspurs what's over there?

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    Yes; good summery Graham... thanks.

    Word is that the 2014 won't be released for sale in the States until all previous inventory has been sold... (due to a large inventory here) anyone know if that is true?

    Also; what is the new "weight" projected to be??

    thanks again for the update, I'll probably upgrade at some point, but I'm in no hurry.
  17. GrahamD

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    Engine type Forward-inclined parallel 2-cylinder, liquid-cooled, 4-stroke, DOHC, 4-valves
    Displacement 1,199cc
    Bore x stroke 98 mm x 79.5 mm
    Compression ratio 11.0 : 1
    Maximum power 82.4 kW (112PS) @ 7,250 rpm
    Maximum Torque 117.0 Nm (11.9 kg-m) @ 6,000 rpm
    Lubrication system Dry sump
    Fuel Delivery Electronic Fuel Injection
    Clutch Type Wet, Multiple Disc
    Ignition system TCI
    Starter system Electric
    Transmission Constant Mesh, 6-speed
    Final transmission Shaft
    Frame Steel tube backbone
    Front suspension Upside-down telescopic fork, Ø 43 mm
    Front travel 190 mm
    Caster Angle 28º
    Trail 126 mm
    Rear suspension Swingarm, Adjustable preload and rebound damping, (link suspension), Monoshock
    Rear Travel 190 mm
    Front brake Hydraulic dual disc, Ø 310 mm wave discs
    Rear brake Hydraulic single disc, Ø 282 mm wave disc
    Front tyre 110/80R19M/C 59V
    Rear tyre 150/70R17M/C 69V
    Overall length 2,255 mm [2,250 mm]
    Overall width 980 mm
    Overall height 1,410 mm
    Seat height 845/870 mm
    Wheel base 1,540 mm
    Minimum ground clearance 190 mm [205mm]
    Wet weight (including full oil and fuel tank) 265 kg [257kg]
    Fuel tank capacity 23 litres
    Oil tank capacity 4.2 litres
  18. silverspurs

    silverspurs what's over there?

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    Thanks!... Kg's are Greek to me!... :huh

    I'll get my calculator out... :D

    looks like about 18 lbs less... or 566 lbs net
  19. McBoab

    McBoab Fast side of farty

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    Doing a comparison on Yamaha UK the 2014 ZE spec is 4Kgs heavier (265kg)than the 2012 spec S10 (261Kgs) probably due to the extra bits like electro sussies and adjustable screen /larger cat.
    The new 2014 stripped out basic S10 is listed as being 257Kgs .

    Don't know if this link will work but is a comparison of 2014 S10, 2012 S10 2014 S10ZE and 2012 World crosser (though no different to the other 2012)
    http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/uk/products/motorcycles/Compare.aspx?codes=552158,482570,552148,464261

    The older bikes are easy to spot as they only have 80.9Kw listed
  20. GrahamD

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