The XT600 Thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by CR_TurboGuy, Jan 21, 2007.

  1. Zecatfish

    Zecatfish XTique Rider

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    http://www.ceebaileys.com/baja_design/index.html
    Should be able to make it fit the OEM number plate.
  2. Mark.F

    Mark.F Been here awhile

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    @ upweekis For those who have kick start 600s, what is your cold start ritual?

    Pretty much the same technique as Big Ed,although if mine's not been used all week it can take a few kicks to fire.If it's been used in the previous couple of days it usually fires up in a couple of kicks.Always slowly kick it over until you feel the piston just go over TDC then give it full choke, NO throttle and a strong kick.You do'nt need to be built like a gorrila to fire it up I'm only about 145 pounds and it works for me.
    When it's warm the bikes so easy to start sometimes it fires up when I'm still trying to get to TDC:D
    thump thump thump!
    Mark
  3. Zecatfish

    Zecatfish XTique Rider

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    Mines a little different, its XT550 electrics, and carb on a TT600 engine.
    When its cold cycle through a few times, then just crack the throttle, kick HARD! it will burp once, repeat, It typically will be running by the third HARD kick when not to cold out.
    When its below freezing outside. All bets are off. Just let me find a hill and push it. :lol3

    Once warm its a one kick running ordeal, with the occasional WTF:huh it didn't start then it can be coerced into running with a HARD KICK and WOT.
    All is happy again.

    I should put the TT600 carb on it. the 550 carb is jetted a bit lean. I actually cleaned up the 600 carb but decided to go riding instead of changing it. :D
  4. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    Ride Report with out pictures.

    Finally broke 50 degrees here. Went for a 150 mile ride. Doin' my usual slabbin' through the city to get back home at about 60 mph on the freeway. Look in the buzzy Acerbis rear wiew and a cop is there. F##k. Slow down to posted speed limit and just watch the dude. All the sudden the disco lights come on. :becca Pull over. I ask "how fast was I going?" and he says, "I didn't pull you over for speeding. You weren't using your turn signals." I say, well, you are correct. I take full responsibility. (as 3 crotch rockets go flying by). I show my proof of insurance and get a tounge lashing, but the copper lets me go with a warning!

    These things are dangerous!

    Then I ran out of gas on reserve. 151 miles? I know where a fuel station up the road is, so I tilt the XT to the left and hope there was enough fuel left to get me 1/2 mile up the road. What do you know, It starts up and I made it to the gas station!

    Fun.
  5. Double_Supercool

    Double_Supercool Been here awhile

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    First bike in around 7 years, a '91 XT600E, and my first off road bike as an introduction to touring. I picked her up cheap looking like this:

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    I am still new to fixing bikes (complete novice), so I signed up for a basic maintenance course. We pulled a few things apart and found a fiew issues (rear sprocket carrier, some bearings, front wheel bearings, steering head bearings, linkage, sprockets and chain). I was initially freaking out, but our mechanic teacher said it should be cool, so I am sourcing parts and next weekend I should be able to fix a lot of it myself with a bit of help :)
  6. netjustin

    netjustin b00b

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    I have never seen an XT running a Givi-style hard bag like that. You'll spend a few $$ replacing those bearings and running gear and the like but it's a good safety decision. And won't cost terribly much since you're doing the work yourself.

    Nice find!!
  7. Double_Supercool

    Double_Supercool Been here awhile

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    Re: the bag. Yeah, it is an RJays brand (not sure if that is over the USA, Pakistani I think but sold a lot in Australia, kind of cheap though). I am probably going to take it off so I can strap my camping gear there.

    I was a bit worried about the extra cost, but I don't think it will be too bad and it *is* an old bike. I am actually looking forward to doing the work as then I will know that *I* did it and how to fix it if things go pear-shaped again :)
  8. pio

    pio n00b

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    Yo! I'm trying to service the clutch on my 89 xt600.. here's the story.. the clutch was always really loose on this bike since I got it over a year ago. Then a couple months ago it started legitimately slipping. Then, shortly after that, I noticed that when I'd let the clutch lever out and engage first gear that the process of releasing the clutch lever was accompanied by a rattling emanating from the clutch. As soon as first gear was fully engaged the noise would disappear. It happened a little bit clutching second too..

    Now I'm relatively certain that I need to replace my plates. I took the clutch plates out and they look pretty worn.. I have it all apart now.

    But I worry about that rattle, is it possible that I have a bearing that needs replacement or something? I'd just hate to order plates, put it all back together, only to find the rattling noise is still there. How could I tell? Is it possible for worn clutch plates to slap in to each other, causing a rattle?

    http://pio.longstair.com/misc/DSCF3182.JPG
  9. Mark.F

    Mark.F Been here awhile

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    PIO
    I do'nt think your clutch plates should rattle,not unless you've got a dry clutch conversion:huh .
    It's quite difficult to diagnose over the internet,was the cable sticking,was the clutch lever releasing properly?
    When you took the clutch plates off the bike ,were they stuck together?
    Do they have that burned smell to them?
    Try and move the clutch basket on it's shaft,any play there,the locknut has'nt backed off eh?
    Can you see any wear marks on either the inner or outer basket?
    I know that's a few questions but it's difficult working something out without seeing it.My own bike is a early kicker XT I think the clutch was one of the few things that did'nt rattle..
    Mark
  10. Olas

    Olas the darkness

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    Could be that your clutch basket bushing is worn out. It sits on the shaft, inside of the basket. You could check by taking off the side cover, grabbing the clutch assembly and feeling for any play. If you feel play or if it feels wobbly then it is more than likely worn out.
  11. pio

    pio n00b

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    No stick, it was releasing properly.
    Yes, they were stuck together. The assembly did smell somewhat burned when I first took off the clutch cover.
    The clutch basket does move a teeny bit.. less than a millimeter but it does move slightly.
    EDIT: Yeah actually there are wear marks on both the basket and the inner "clutch boss". The fingers on the basket have wear grooves worn in to them (maybe .5 mm deep) and a couple of the boss splines have small notches on the inside (like, farthest from the pressure plate). And holy crap, the replacement parts are expensive!

    I guess when I put on the new steel plates I could avoid putting their teeth on the damaged splines of the clutch boss. I don't see any damage or noticeable wear on the teeth of the old plates that corresponds to the notches.

    Suggestions? I still have yet to remove the basket assembly and inspect the parts beneath, I'll do that later.
  12. Loch Sloy!

    Loch Sloy! n00b

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    I'm looking for a 20 or 23L tank for my xt600e (1990) I can't seem to find one in North America. Anybody have any leads?
    cheers
  13. netjustin

    netjustin b00b

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    Justgastanks.com sold me a 5.5gal Acerbis tank. It fits great, is lighter than stock, and has dual(ing) petcocks. The only thing I would add to it is fuel foam and maybe a notch on the right side to clear the throttle plate. It currently rubs my throttle plate although I am using an aftermarket carb. Price was ~$350 shipped if I remember correctly but took 4 months to ship from mfg in Italy.

    Other thoughts.... Clark might have a model that fits the XT600E but I've only seen one for the pre-1990 XT.

    Check ebay to cover your "best price" options.



    Good luck.

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  14. goodcat8

    goodcat8 I can pass this guy.....

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  15. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    I won a rotor off a TT 600 on fleabay for $10!

    I'm going to see if it works on my XT. I'd say the TT rotor is at least 1-2 lb. lighter. I hope it makes it rev a lot quicker! I noticed there is a timing difference as far as advance in the midrange, but I think the CDI controls it, not the location of the pickups. Words of advice, be carful not to offset the puller when pulling because you can mess up the threads, which I did a little bit. And heat up the center boss REALLY WELL to get it to pop off. Here is the difference in size of the two rotors....

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  16. netjustin

    netjustin b00b

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    Good job getting yours off. Took my engine guy more than 48 hours of waiting, tapping, heat cycles, etc to get that puppy off. Said he had "300 pounds" of force. I was too skurrd to ask if he meant 300 lb tension and not ft-lb on the puller bolt. :D
  17. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    I ran into another little issue. Pickup clearance. The TT uses a different ignition pickup assembly since the diameter of the rotor is smaller than the XT's. :shog

    I will have to find a TT pickup or modify my XT's inward to offset it so it "sees" the sensors. Anyone have an extra TT600 pickup laying around they want to sell me?

    Fun!
  18. Zecatfish

    Zecatfish XTique Rider

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    The TT600 appeared identical to my XT550 except the stator was a 6V unit instead of 12v. The XT550 stator would fit in the TT600 also.
    I didn't try the TT600 flywheel with my 550 electrics though. To many stories about broken foots and such from getting wrong, but I did compare the two and the timing and keyway appeared in the same place as the 550.


    Good luck.
  19. Kobac

    Kobac n00b

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    Does anybody knows dimension of Kickstart Oil Seal for Yamaha XT600 2kf?
  20. GeoffE

    GeoffE n00b

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    Please double-check, but I think it is 20 x 30 x 7.
    The Yamaha part# is 93102-20108-00, if that helps?

    Geoff