The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. PWRCRZR

    PWRCRZR Grumpy Old Bastard

    Joined:
    May 10, 2008
    Oddometer:
    7,701
    Location:
    Mid-Coast Maine
    I made the switch last year from a KLR/DL 1000 combo to a Tenere. No regrets for sure!

    At first the Tenere seemed big compared to the KLR but after the first weekend of riding around I realized even though it was bigger it was much better. Every time I go off pavement with the S10 I get even more comfortable with it. There are probably a few nasty places I have taken the KLR that I may not tackle with the S10 but they are very few.

    Trust be save yourself some money and put that KLR up for sale now before it depreciates from neglect:deal
  2. HBL

    HBL Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2011
    Oddometer:
    315
    Location:
    Minnesota
    I am looking to replace the KLR next season, and the S10 is at the top of the wish list. The one nagging question/concern I have is if I will be able to pick it up if (when) I drop it while riding solo. I can manage the KLR and it is known to be top heavy. I have also read that the S10 carry’s its weight lower, so would that help to offset some of the extra 150 lbs.? Has anyone here actually picked up both bikes that could comment on the difference?<?xml:namespace prefix = "o" ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
  3. jwdub

    jwdub Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2005
    Oddometer:
    771
    Location:
    SW Washington
    I recently tipped over in my driveway when the side stand wasn't fully down and locked. Back into the bike, one hand on the end of the handlebar and the other at the luggage rack. With your butt at the seat, push back into the bike. You'll have it upright in a jiffy. While I'm 6'2" and 220 or so, I'm also 68. There are also some Youtube videos of people picking the Tenere' up.
  4. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2006
    Oddometer:
    17,583
    Location:
    Salt Lake
    This is our own Git Ray in the video. He currently has the record for the most overloaded
    Tenere on the planet.

    <IFRAME height=315 src="//www.youtube.com/embed/kdxYlQ02CmQ" frameBorder=0 width=420 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>

    [​IMG]
  5. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2003
    Oddometer:
    10,481
    Location:
    Swellvue, WA
    Virtually any bike can be picked up with with the right techniques, but I don't think there is any doubt the S10 will be considerably more difficult to right than a KLR. If you're near your physical limits with the KLR, you may be over the limit with the S10. And I'm not a big believer that the S10 has any significant low-CG advantage over other comparable bikes - it's a tall DOHC parallel-twin with a high-mounted radiator and battery.

    If you feel you need to address this concern, my suggestion is that you look at the 650-800cc adventure twins.... Wee, F800GS, Versys, etc. Or the small Tiger. Or, if your off-road needs are modest, even the CB500X which is about the same weight as your KLR, but is a lot nicer bike for highway cruising.

    - Mark
  6. HBL

    HBL Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2011
    Oddometer:
    315
    Location:
    Minnesota
    He picked that thing up like it was a toy :eek1 Okay, I should be fine. Time to start shopping :clap
  7. RED CAT

    RED CAT Bumpy Backroader

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2005
    Oddometer:
    3,038
    Location:
    Western Canada
    Installs tires with his bare hands.:lol3
  8. HBL

    HBL Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2011
    Oddometer:
    315
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Thanks. Off-road ambitions for this bike would be relatively modest, gravel and fire roads. After a few weekends home alone this past summer, the wife is suddenly interested in riding along. I am 6'3" and 210 lbs., so the KLR feels pretty cramped when she climbs on board. I want to keep that upright riding position and leg room, and the S10 seems to provide that where many other bikes have less seat to peg distance. Picking the thing up is my only concern, so probably best to just stop at the dealer to get a better feel for the bike.

    Thanks again for the comments :beer
  9. snakebitten

    snakebitten Small Town Hick

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2007
    Oddometer:
    981
    Location:
    Coastal Texas
    He is an amazing fella, ain't he?

    He has no idea how many things I think I can do now because "Ray did it". :)
  10. Happy Snapper

    Happy Snapper GOMOB.

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2009
    Oddometer:
    2,201
    Location:
    Brisbane, almost heaven!
    My switch from KLR to S10 surprised me at how mucho easier it is to pick up the S10 than the KLR. Thought it would be harder.... but not so!
  11. HBL

    HBL Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2011
    Oddometer:
    315
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Thank you! Somewhere in the thousands of posts I have read, somebody made a similar comment in comparing the S10 to his Wee, so I was looking for some additional real life comparisons and confirmation. It didn't feel that bad to me when I took it off center but the dealer I visited wasn't excited about laying it down so I could pick it up. I'll try another dealer, but this gives me more confidence. My first reaction when I watched Git Ray's video was not a new found level of confidence, but rather a desire to avoid ever getting this guy mad at me! :rofl

  12. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2009
    Oddometer:
    5,426
    Location:
    Blue Mnts Ozstralia
    Yes compare the two...

    <IFRAME height=315 src="//www.youtube.com/embed/kdxYlQ02CmQ" frameBorder=0 width=420 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/OOCTsna2jiI?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Way more fun with the smaller bike :lol3
  13. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2003
    Oddometer:
    10,481
    Location:
    Swellvue, WA
    All I can say is use some common sense about this. If you really want to believe that is is easier to pick up a 575-lb bike vs. 430-lb bike, be my guest. As for first hand experiences, I've picked up my S10 a few times and owned a Wee for five years and did the same with it. As you'd expect, the 100-lb lighter Wee was easier.... by about what you'd expect with a 100-lb lighter bike. And I'd expect the KLR would feel... about 50-lbs lighter still.

    Don't get me wrong.... the S10 carries its weight well and returns a lot of capability and comfort for the extra weight compared to a KLR. But it's a PITA hoisting it off the deck, and if you ride it off-road in some terrain, you can get the bike into situations (due to slippery conditions, off-camber, etc.) that righting it alone is essentially impossible.

    I'm sure someone will now show a video of a 95-lb sopping-wet woman righting a Goldwing with one arm tied behind her back.

    - Mark
  14. Wreckchecker

    Wreckchecker Ungeneer to broked stuff.

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Oddometer:
    2,993
    Location:
    Damascus, MD
    Your wife is probably going to really like the Tenere's pillion seat. It's big and fairly flat.
  15. McBoab

    McBoab Fast side of farty

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2003
    Oddometer:
    315
    Location:
    NE England
    I dumped my S10 (left the disk lock on :muutt ) and it is definitely not a hard beast to pick up . it was far easier than my previous XT660Z as the S10 does carry its weight low so its easier to lever up onto its tyres. If however it was inverted ie top end lower than wheels or needed a vertical lift then the dead weight would be a back breaker.
  16. Kenbike

    Kenbike Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2009
    Oddometer:
    760
    Location:
    South of the big lake
    I dropped mine in the mountains of NC last march on a dirt fire road when I hit ice. Went off the road and into a ditch about 3 feet deep. I carry a rescue block and tackle and was able to pull the front end up, block it with a log then the back and block it. Took about 3 pulls on each end and finally had it back on the road. At that point I was so pumped up I picked up no problem. A trick I have used is to carry black tape and wrap it around the front brake lever so the wheel is locked and keep the bike in gear so when you lift the bike will roll because of a slope.
    If you plan ahead you should have no problem. Can also think about installing a winch on the rear rack.
  17. tremor38

    tremor38 Long timer

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,472
    Location:
    Japan
    Ya know, Mark... I realize you own and S10, but that sounds like an awful lot of speculative wind blowing about something you obviously haven't tried yet with your S10. I weigh 150lbs soaking wet, my left arm is nearly useless and I can pick up my S10 using only the handle bars.

    I wouldn't exactly call it easy, but it's certainly not something that would have me recommending mid weight bikes to someone who owned a KLR. Maybe, when my bike was laying on its side, I should have just waved a white flag after fretting over the "tall DOHC parallel-twin with a high-mounted radiator and battery." Jeebus, fella, do you even read posts from people who've picked their bike up?
  18. avc8130

    avc8130 Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2008
    Oddometer:
    1,692
    Location:
    Northern NJ
    When I have dropped mine in the dirt, I have found the key to picking it back up is to act quickly.

    Grab the darn bike and right it while the adrenaline is pumping and you are still pissed off.

    If you stand up, dust yourself off, try to figure out what went wrong, take a picture, wait for the Starbucks to finish you latte, etc the energy drops and it is that much harder to right the ship.

    ac
  19. tremor38

    tremor38 Long timer

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,472
    Location:
    Japan
    Haha!! Naw, it's not the adrenaline. If you allow the bike to stay on it's side too long it falls asleep and becomes dead weight.
  20. pedroecompanhia

    pedroecompanhia Restless Rider

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2013
    Oddometer:
    43
    Location:
    Viana do Castelo, Portugal
    I couldn't agree more!! :freaky