The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. snakebitten

    snakebitten Small Town Hick

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    I was skeptical of those "wild claims" of fuel range no matter how easy you are on the throttle. Until it was revealed they were Colorado miles. That's entirely believable. I was stunned at the mileage I was getting there.

    However, for you folks that actually live at those elevations, man you pay a huge performance price for those extended miles.

    However, considering the playground, it's worth it. :)
  2. dickensheets

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    Left California (sea level) with 35/32PSI in the tires.

    3 days later sitting in a hotel in Durango (7000ft) going over the bike. Found 55PSI in both tires, cold!

    Never paid attention to this type of thing before. It was riding very rough. Let a bunch of air out and it was normal again.

    I will watch it now doing extreme elevation changes.

    Ryan
  3. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

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    Are you sure it's not just your gauge. How does a tire go up in pressure by reducing the outside pressure?

    Makes no sense. :scratch
  4. GSteve

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    Here's the explanation. The relatively small volume of motorcycle tires the effect is more dramatic than car or truck tires.

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=167
  5. srelegante

    srelegante srelegante

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    I would be interested in input from someone that got off a 955i Tiger, onto a ST.

    Drop me a PM if you like.

    Thanks! :1drink

    SE
  6. ec90t

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    You ought to see what a jet airliner tires get to when traveling at 30,000 + feet! Or better yet, a "surveillance plane" that travels at 80,000 feet +.
  7. markjenn

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    Something's fishy here. Even going from sea level to outer space, the pressure measured would be only 35+14.7=49.7. And Durango is at considerably lower elevation than outer space. The measured actual pressure rise (actually a rise in differential between the tire's pressure and ambient pressure) due to decreased atmospheric pressure at 7K feet vs. sea level should be about 3.5 psi. Temp change might account for another couple, but nothing is going to make it go up 20 psi. You've got gauge or some other kind of measurement errors.

    - Mark
  8. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

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    Again, the maximum possible increase is 14.7 psi (approximately). To an airliner tire which is 200 psi normally, 15 psi extra isn't significant. It is even less significant to a SR-71 which has 425 psi tires.

    - Mark
  9. Juan Valderrama

    Juan Valderrama Been here awhile

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    That is right. Here in Bogotá we are at 2800 meter above sea level, that is about 8600 feet. We had tested machines in dinamometers and they loose about 30% of their advertised power, considering some other 15 % lost on drive shaft and transmission.

    That is why I rather have a fuel injection bike, at least it's ECU adjusts the mix for better performance climbing higher or lower.

    Juan Valderrama
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    Broadcasting from Bogotá - Colombia.
  10. cb0802

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    Mike,
    I envy your trip and think the bike looks great. The only recommendation I have is to move the rotopaks to the top of your panniers. Someone else touched on this already, but if the bike goes down, your rotopaks will hit the ground just before your panniers start making sparks on the pavement. I imagine that would be much worse than running out of fuel.
    Good luck on the trip and keep us posted on your journey@
  11. Juan Valderrama

    Juan Valderrama Been here awhile

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    In Bogotá, at this altitude, 2600 M (8500 feet) my bike does about 16 to 19 kmts per liter, that is about some 55 miles per US galon.

    Juan Valderrama
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    Broadcasting from Bogotá - Colombia.
  12. NSpooner

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    What would you guys pay for a used Tenere? I'm starting to look more seriously but I'm kind of surprised what people are asking for them. You can buy brand new '12 or '13 models for $11k and people are asking that or more for used bikes. I feel like I should be able to get a pretty nice one for $8500 or so, am I insane?
  13. markjenn

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    Most S10's are well-farkled and a lot of owners probably haven't yet accepted the realities of the situation where they've invested $17K in their bikes and they're only worth $10K or so even with accessories. If you are willing to travel to one of the dealers blowing out a new S10 for $11K, I'd buy new. OTOH, if there is a used bike that is outfitted with a lot of stuff that you like, the price you're seeing may start to seem a lot more reasonable.... farkles are expensive. A full-set of luggage, heated grips, skid plate, wind deflectors, crash bars, etc. - suddenly you're looking at a $3K bill at your local friendly Yamaha dealer.

    - Mark
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    snakebitten Small Town Hick

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    Repeat;

    I haven't seen an overpriced Tenere in the USA. New or used. Ask folks around the world. They are a steal.

    This weekend, as we were coming off a 45mile dirt road with 7 or 8 creek crossings, and as many bump gates, we started back to camp via one of the "twisted sisters" here in the Texas Hill Country. When I was leaned over in a sharp uphill decreasing radius right hander, my boot was scraping pavement. I had a huge grin behind my dusty bug splattered visor.

    MSRP was underpriced for that moment.
  15. Old Git Ray

    Old Git Ray Now retired...YeeHaa

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    +1 Me too....
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    Buy a new one with no accessories for $11K or a used one all loaded up for the same money with a few miles on it? The decision is yours to make.

    I bought new as I wanted the peace of mind that I was going to be the one to put all the miles on it until I part with it.

    After the first ride, I realized the bike is a bargain at any price!
  17. NSpooner

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    No doubt they are a good value but that doesn't mean I need to over pay for one. I would just buy a new one if I didn't just plunk down $5k getting some work done to my basement so I'd like to save a few grand if possible.


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    Jet aircraft use nitrogen in their tires which has a much lower pressure change at altitude than plain old air. Trivia of the day. :1drink
  19. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    Let's face it, the bike is pretty bulletproof and most of the middle aged demographic who buy them treat them well. If I found a used one that was accessorized the way I wanted I wouldn't hesitate to buy it and save thousands. Those mods/accessories add up!

    In fact that's what I did. I bought mine with 2,500 miles on it and save about $3K over a new one. Not a single issue other than the headlight harness, which would have had to be replaced on the new bike.
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    Hows that work then ?

    I thought a gas under pressure (inert ones anyway) reacts the same to pressure changes regardless of what it is.

    I am genuinely confused (honestly). Please explain.