I own a 660 and I and my mates ride 660's a great deal off road. Some of what we ride would not be suitable for most bigger bikes unless in the hands of the very capable. My problem is that it is (660) quite a tall bike and rather top heavy. This is a bit sad cause it makes me take very high resolution soil samples in my mouth very often. I like the 660 but I find it to difficult and under powered ( especially since I have gained quite some kilos from eating to much soil) for my liking. So now I am considering the 1200. What I am afraid of is not being able to join my friends when they take the 660's to the trails on the weekends and would ask you guys for some input about it's (1200) "True" off road capabilities ( in the hands of a novice and not a Dakar legend). I do understand that it is far heavier and the ground clearance is smaller. But all say that it feels quite light and it is lower so I can reach the ground with both feet. So what Say you? can it really off road or is it a sophisticated Vee or var ?