The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. GB

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    Yes, used prices are incredible, especially in the US, but I can't get past the limitation an FJR would impose on me. No more hopping curbs, standing on the pegs through gravel roads... heat... plastic.... scraping pegs...

    Yes, S10 has my name on it. Bring it here, and I will buy :deal
  2. GB

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    So is the TDM redundant now that they have the XT12Z? Will they sell both bikes in the same market?
  3. drbig

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    I own a 660 and I and my mates ride 660's a great deal off road. Some of what we ride would not be suitable for most bigger bikes unless in the hands of the very capable.
    My problem is that it is (660) quite a tall bike and rather top heavy.
    This is a bit sad cause it makes me take very high resolution soil samples in my mouth very often. I like the 660 but I find it to difficult and under powered ( especially since I have gained quite some kilos from eating to much soil) for my liking. So now I am considering the 1200. What I am afraid of is not being able to join my friends when they take the 660's to the trails on the weekends and would ask you guys for some input about it's (1200) "True" off road capabilities ( in the hands of a novice and not a Dakar legend).
    I do understand that it is far heavier and the ground clearance is smaller.
    But all say that it feels quite light and it is lower so I can reach the ground with both feet.
    So what Say you? can it really off road or is it a sophisticated Vee or var ?
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    They are in a different league all together, the TDM is a "Scarver" for fast roads a well dressed hooligan, or as we call it a Urban Assault Vehicle.
    Ideal for ride to worg an on any sunday...

    The Tenere is a Travel Appliance, for people who want to ride their bike till petrol runs out, searching for the end of the rainbow...

    Well there is written enough about that really, if you can't keep the 660 upright with its enourmous groundclearence suspensiontravel and 21" wheel, you will become full time archeologist on the S10 for sure.

    I don't want to be offensive, so don't be offended, but what i read about your feet reaching the ground on the S10, to keep you toppling over, seems to me the underlying problem, Off-Road you have to get out of the saddle and stand on the pegs, as riding gets rough, so how high a bike is, has no significant effect on the amount of ground inspections :-)

    Take a course in off road riding, and you'll see it's 75% technique/25% bike
    But first and foremost, stand up instead of trying to paddling, as soon as you put out a leg, you allmost certainly will make problems bigger, because you disrupt balance even more.

    Off-road steering is keeping the handlebar in a verry loose fit, and steer with yer *Feet*, so you want to the left, lift your right feet!
    (oh yes, thats only possible when you're standing on them btw...)
  5. Old Git Ray

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    It will go off road......and you'll fall off it less due to the height, the weight distribution and the ABS/TCS.
    It really depends on your own definition of "off road". Its not a trials bike so dont expect to go rock crawling but I heve been playing on mine up and down Scottish hillsides and it is more than capable on grass so gravel etc should be no problem.

    R3B's description regarding the sheepdog and the rotweiller is very apt. Its a big bike but its an easy bike. Yamahe have done a magical job with this bike and abilities far outstrip the paper statistics.
  6. drbig

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    when I try rock jumping I usaly end up with rock kissing and some time at the dentist. But we do ride down river beds and in the desert . Deep pebbels and sand are quite common and some times we go up gravel pathes that have rather big loose stones and the ocasional stone steps. This requires some agility and a firm hand on the throttle when riding the 660.
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    My guess is that you will struggle with the S10 under those circumstances. I have already bottomed mine out on rocks and it does not sound a severe here as it is in Israel. Perhaps your type of riding would be more suited to the 660 ?
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    No I am not offended but you are stating the obvious regarding taking a course ( been there and done that) or standing on the pegs and riding loose. My issues are not when I am moving but when I have to negosiate rocks , boulders at stand still or very slow speeds. There are ocasions when I have to put a foot down and if for any reason I am over a small lowring in the ground or if one or both wheels are on a rock I cant reach the ground. As the 660 is quite top heavy, once it starts to tillt - over we go
    I added a pic that proves that I really do know how to stand on the pegs:evil

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  9. kmax

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    XTZ 1200 just reached to Singapore.

    some photos of taken by our fellow inmate AJ.

    SGD$30.5k for base model. they bring only 5 and 4 are sold.

    http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=6525235

  10. drbig

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    I was hoping you might say somthing else as I have been waiting so long for this bike to arrive and I even got my wife to say YES. But I guess like all things in life you win some and loose some at the same time.
    I know I will enjoy this bike a great deal but would hate to loose the great friendship and great riding trips that my mates and I have found in our small Tenere 660 club.

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  11. danger_dave

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    Had a pretty good ride on one today.

    'I did about 150km this afternoon and think it's going to be very good bike for local conditions.
    Found it as as comfortable as a comfortable thing on national cushion day and thought it has great handling, braking and good power, without being 'sick'. Sounds very nice too.
    Lovely front end, solid on the dirt and the engine spools up really nicely. I liked the instruments and dash and the whole cockpit set up worked pretty well.
    Ground clearance isn't huge - it's not poor - but not sportsbike either. Still very tidy on the tarmac nonetheless.
    It's quite a lump to manhandle with feet down on the slippery stuff - but then there's not many 1200s that aren't. '

    Pics and a video dribble on the Kiwi Rider site:

    http://kiwiridermagazine.blogspot.com/2010/07/quick-flick-yamaha-super-tenere-1200.html
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    Positive review on this South African site...

    Check out the pic of three S10's wheelying side by side on a dirt road :evil

    I have to say, ome of the statements in the test are a bit out there - as much as I'd like to believe they are true, I'm not sure I can...

    "The XT1200Z Super Tenere has off road handling that is without a doubt, ahead of any of its competition - 800cc, 990cc and 1200cc alike - The Super Tenere wins hands down."

    Found a better copy of that pic in Adventure Magazine

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    Trevor
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    Either most of their advertising comes from YAMAHA OR

    They like the bike A LOT.

    (OR BOTH)

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    Well its one of the inmates here, so ask him...


    but what i've read, its a verry thorough test which nicely overlaps my own experience, it's a real pitty you havent ridden it yourself, it's (for such a hefty pig) a sublime handling machine, at the moment you trow your leg over the saddle, and your buttock land on it, it feels like a 5 years old Levi's 501.

    And as soon as you roll, it's like you ridden it for 10 years or so, it feels so comfy dependable and "at Home" it just is not believable.
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    I'm not sure these three are doing wheelies as much as all three have just cleared a jump together and front wheel hasn't come down yet. The furthest on the right still has yet to land on his back wheel which is where I get my assumption. But in any case, this just ain't fair seeing three of these beasts together when we in the USA likely won't get a chance at one.

    I'd likely use it mostly for sport touring anyway since figure Yamaha aimed it at that 1200GS crowd anyway, but it still looks nice to be able to do some mild dirt stuff if want too. But if'n I were to shell out the bucks it will take for this bike, I won't be thrashing it around in dirt and gravel. I'd buy a cheap used DR650 for those duties (but me bones getting a bit old to fall in dirt too much anyway).

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    Well if this foto is the tough bit in Israel, the S10 wil do it without any problem, I've done way more awkward stuff in the Picos with the horrible telelever R3b, the S10 feels much more capable for such terrain, but if that kind of stuff gets *wet* it will be verry tricky with the mass it has.
  18. Old Git Ray

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    Your second picture shows more of the type of riding you intend to do. The S10 will eat that. But earlier you mentioned rocky river beds. That it will do but do not go near boulders.

    Lets put it this way, as far as I am aware, no-one that has one has been dissapointed.
  19. dcstrom

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    Can someone with more French than me give us a synopsis of the MotoRevue video comparison of the S10 and GS Adventure?

    As an aside, seeing the Adventure and Super Tenere side-by-side for the first time, the Adventure looks HUGE! That's cos it is, and one of the things that turns me off it. Even if the S10 is heavier, it's much more compact.

    Trevor
  20. drbig

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    Thanks Old Git Ray and R3B for your input
    I don't have to many photos and i do not want to sound like an Idiot but I think the pic bellow shows what I mean about the type of riding we do ( these 4*4's are doing a trip that we did with the 660's a few months ago.
    As I said I consider myself a novice and some of the things we do would be easy for most but some times we will ride most of the day a terrain similar to what this landrover is coming down.

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    I think there are very few ST1200 here and they will not be to happy if I test the only one they have and bring it back fubar'd.
    it costs here almost 28,500 euros ( the GSA is 39,000 Euros) so this is why i rather ask and inquire as much as I can before I do the most stupid financial thing I will ever do regardless if it is the best bike in the world or not (but it is hard to put a price on passion although my wife seems better evaluating the cost than I :evil)