The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. johno

    johno Long timer

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    Bill,(Olddog) what is your real feel re the 1150GS v the S10? I used to have an 1150GS, and it was a great bike, but as you have said, a little top heavy.
    I currently have an R1150R, but wouldnt mind having a good look at the S10.

    As I get older, I get a little nervous when putting feet down in loose gravel, so thats one of my main issues with a GS type bike. Although, the seat height is good on the Yammy.

    I only ride tar, or some unsealed back roads, not offroad as such, but like the riding position of these bikes(the backs not what it used to be:cry )
  2. R3B

    R3B Lazy Motorcyclist

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    Well with the excellent controllable assistance of the ATC/ABS of the Tenere, and its built in Gyroscope (that's what it feels like...) you won't need your legwork anyhow, especcially the standard forks are a immense help on semi-hardened tracks, the Telelever has the backlash of plowing its wheel into corrogation, bringing massive unrest into the bike, and pushing the front sideway's

    In this old Braketest its very discernable...

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    You see the XT going straight from the start, like bow and arrow, where the GS is struggling to find its course like a oldfashioned heat seeking missile, it goes faster, but at what expense ;-)

    And Stopping looks almost like toppling in the end...
    (and the XT halts 3 feet sooner, but that can be caused by starting speed differences)
  3. Wasp

    Wasp Supa10 pilot

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    "Not officially confirmed"

    It is reported that Yamaha in South Africa are recalling the new Super10 as the top box mount plate is fracturing???

    http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=53870.0

    Interesting to see what becomes of this and if it will filter through to other countries.

    Greg.
  4. R3B

    R3B Lazy Motorcyclist

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    O.M.G. !!!


    The Tenere is falling apart !!!

    The speedo has gone wild, and the top box kan Jump off !!!


    (How many GSA riders have flipped their hardcases through the air without any replacement...)
  5. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister Funky White Boy

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    As R3B said, the Power Commander is a much more comprehensive solution to fuel management.
    However, IF the S10 uses a similar CPU as the FJR's, unhooking the O2 sensor is worthwhile. When the sensor is unplugged, the computer resorts to a default map which is richer than stock, at most temperatures. Vibration is reduced, as is fuel economy.
    This isn't a substitute for the Power Commander (on the FJR, at least), but does help, especially if the airbox is modded.
  6. DakarBlues

    DakarBlues One-everythinged man

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    Same thing happened to the Gobi top box on KTM LC8 Adventure.

    Doesn't seem like a big deal!

    All bikes have their niggles, personally if I was the other side of the big pond, I would happily live with the ST 1200, so far it has proved quite worthy for the task at hand.
  7. R3B

    R3B Lazy Motorcyclist

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    Nah, thats ruining your engine, it then reverts to emergency maps, loading way to much fuel, giving massive CO, but more importantly loads of condensed petrol in the oil...
    And a horrendous bill at the pump...
    Better tweak the temp sensor in thinking its 10 degrees cooler :-)
  8. SuperCruise

    SuperCruise Been here awhile

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    I'm loving the easy riding style that T power mode provides, which is great for commuting and loping down the highway, and how much it wakes up and wants to play when switched to S mode. Very skitzophrenic, nicely matching my two main riding styles. :clap

    I reckon it runs very smooth already compared to my Wee and far smoother low down than a Vee I once test rode. Unless things worsen as I break my S10 in more, this will be one bike I won't be messing with performance-wise.
  9. GrahamD

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    It's obvious that YAMAHA hasn't got a clue regards customer service.

    1) Fancy admiting that there is a problem after 3 failures.
    2) They are looking at it NOW and not waiting for 6 years.
    3) They will replace the units FOC when they have have it sorted.

    That is not the way it is done YAMAHA, haven't you been paying attention :lol3

    Good on 'em for jumping onto it so soon. (unofficially of course) :thumb


    Cheers
    Graham
  10. shikataganai

    shikataganai moof

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    The Google Translate version is much better than the (Yahoo) Babelfish translation:

    http://translate.google.com/transla...re-1-vecchie-rivalita-moto-9276&sl=auto&tl=en
  11. AllOrds

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    When you guys spend the big bucks, you can have abs and top box security too.
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  12. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

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    I can now understand why the BMW boys are so keen to have an off switch for the BMW ABS. :huh

    Very funny video though :D

    Cheers
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  13. dcstrom

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    Ha Ha just laughed my arse off, best laugh I've had all night - that's saying something, considering I just finishing watching Stewart lay into to Faux News yet again... I loved it when he fell off and hit the horn with his foot - then the guy narrating the video was very generous I thought, calling the fall "bad luck". Good onya digger.


    Seriously though, could one of you S10-owning bastards try the same trick and see how it turns out? Don't forget to have somebody video it.

    Trevor
  14. OldDog

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    G'day Johnno, sorry for the slow reply mate. The bikes are pretty different. The GS is like riding with a bag of cement in your lap when the tanks full whereas the 10's weight is down at peg level. They both weigh about the same but the 10 is so much more manageable. The 10 has more grunt, it has more leg room and with the seat on the low setting you can touch the ground easily. The brakes work well (abs) in the dirt by the way. An interesting point is the suspension action, its better than the GS, the front is planted due to no tele lever and the back is smoother over the rough stuff and i reckon thats due to a longer swingarm.

    However the 10 has a lot of plastic compared to the 1150 and it will need a few well placed guards / bash plates / crash bars to protect everything in a spill. My shoulders are pretty much stuffed so i don't do much serious offroad, like you this beast is for the tar and good tracks, so hopefully my plastics will last for a while :lol3

    Hope that helps?
  15. markjenn

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    I've heard this now in several posts, but it doesn't make much sense to me. A big criticism of vertical twins is that they carry their weight very high, especially in DOHC configuration whereas boxers are generally considered to be an engine with a very low COG. And with the S10, you've also got a radiator and coolant sitting up pretty high and to one side. Granted, fill the tank on the GSA and you've got a lot of weight pretty high, but penalizing the bike for fuel weight you don't have to carry seems pretty unfair.

    I can't speak to the "feel" of each motorcycle, but I'd bet a dollar to a donut that with equal fuel on board the COG of the S10 is higher than a GS. To me, the huge advantage of the S10's engine configuration has nothing to do with COG considerations and has everything to do with not having cylinders sticking out the sides of the bike where they can get hung up on stuff.

    - Mark
  16. warnabrother

    warnabrother .. if you see the Rozzers

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    a motorcycles weight or COG is not only determined by engine and radiator configuration.. placement within the frame, fuel load and placement, crap around the dash etc etc etc etc all add up ..
  17. johno

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    Thanks Bill. Yeah, I have stuffed shoulders as well(and the rest of my body:cry )

    Just looking at the moment. Will check out the bike in Adelaide next week:clap
  18. Too_Tall

    Too_Tall The Belgian

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    Damn you.

    Damn you all.

    I will RESIST a testdrive...I will RESIST a testdrive...my 08 Wee with a million farkles is GOOD ENOUGH...I will RESIST a testdrive...

    :becca
  19. umitc

    umitc Been here awhile

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    I am selling my 990 ADV mostly for the heat it generates and looking to get either a GS or S10. Don't want to have that heat any more. Some more feedbacks about this from summer riders are welcome.
  20. Wasp

    Wasp Supa10 pilot

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    We havent had summer with the S10 yet but I already think that (based on my experience with the GSA loaner) the Beemer is the one to avoid if you dont like heat on the legs.
    The S10 sheds the heat out to the side very efficiently.

    Greg.