The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. Rick West

    Rick West Function not Farkles

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    You can say that again. I had not seen that report. Strong words for sure.

    "Don't be fooled by anyone who claims this is a GS beater, they're talking complete shite"

    :umph
  2. Animo

    Animo Beastly n00b

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    The only shite with those 3 bikes is the article itself, pure shite.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    They complain that all 3 bikes are not off road capable, where are the off road pictures? Where are the dunes they tested the bikes on? Sounds like they took 3 farkeled out Vespa owners and they put them on real bikes.<o:p></o:p>
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    S10 (Excellent bike for the purpose it was built for):<o:p></o:p>
    Dog slow: I hit 210km/h the other day for a while, that was cat fast, fast enough for me. If I wanted faster I would have purchased a YZF-R1. The XT1,200Z is not a racer and was never designed as one.<o:p></o:p>
    ABS "off" tricky: WTF? Why would you want it off? I guess because of the BMW they thought they had to, but they rode on tarmac wtf?<o:p></o:p>
    Price: More than a Vespa<o:p></o:p>
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    Multistrada 1200S (Excellent bike for the purpose it was built for):<o:p></o:p>
    Lack of off-road skills: They may be referring to the rider..... Why is he steering the bike with his small penis? It might explain his lack of off road skills, try it sitting on the bike.......<o:p></o:p>
    Price: More than a Vespa<o:p></o:p>
    Delicate: WTF kind of observation is that? "Delicate".<o:p></o:p>
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    R1,200GS (Excellent bike for the purpose it was built for):<o:p></o:p>
    Slow top end: Buy an S1,000rr you dip shit, when will they understand these bikes are not meant to be fast.<o:p></o:p>
    It's massive: They are 1,200cc bikes, what did you expect, your Vespa?!?!?!<o:p></o:p>
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    What a bunch of SHITE! Fast bike magazine should stick to, you know, crotch rockets :lol3
  3. Ze_zaskar

    Ze_zaskar Been here awhile

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    Honestly, anyone who thinks a S10 is not powerfull or fast enough should really get a FJR instead (same aplies for the GSA). The S10 has WAY more than enough power and speed for it's purpose as a big dual sport. Heck, a F800GS is powerfull enough if you used the engine and gearbox the right way.

    The only reasons I use a >1000cc bike is that I can think less about gears and RPM's, I can get in more stupid situations, overload the bike with crap more often and carry a pillion easly, in sum, because I'm lazy.

    About the ABS, and for all who criticize the S10 sistem, PLEASE go to a dirt or deep gravel road and put all the power on the front brake, then tell me something. Keep in mind, not everything that's good on a 120kg dirt bike is good on a 250kgs one. Different contexts need different solutions, and an intelligent ABS is one on such big bikes
  4. Goldie05

    Goldie05 Fast George

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    Who gives a sh1t about these reviews :baldy 1 mile faster, 2 miles slower, 300 mile range, 250 mile range, I'm so F*&king tired of this BS :baldy

    I just want the bike to get here, I don't give a FLYING CRAP if the Ducati had 500 HP, if the BMW has an OFF SWITCH :becca

    There are no UNBIASED REPORTS.....PERIOD.
    Unless they get someone from the Amazon forest that have never seen either of these bikes :wink:

    I'm a Ferrari fan, always have, always will be, give me a Ferrari, a Lambo, or whatever and I'm sure I will find something that will make the Ferrari be the best :wink: maybe it's just the color RED :lol3

    Please YAMAHA, ship the bikes :D
  5. johnpitts01

    johnpitts01 Long timer

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    Echoing Docking Pilot's remarks. If I can get 250 miles from a tank I am a happy camper. :clap

    Just adds to all of the pluses of this bike.

    Can't wait to eake delivery.
  6. BobLoblaw

    BobLoblaw Comfortably Numb

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    Talking of thirst, at rapid
    motorway speeds it was dry from
    fully fuelled after 140 miles, which
    isn&#8217;t good. The lying bastard of an
    average mpg display on the flimsy
    clocks suggested 44 to 47mpg during
    our 2,000 test miles. That would be
    well over 200 miles per 23 litre tank
    full. Inaccurate enough for you?


    One of the problems with the above statement is the reader cannot tell if this is a one off occurrence or if it happened all the time at highway speeds. Highway speeds are not defined. The is no reference in the article as to how the fuel mileage on the other bikes may have changed at "highway speeds" So, no comparison.

    I don't think MPG computer calculators on vehicles are all that accurate but to have the mpg display read 44 to 47mpg and the bike actually deliver 28mpg (imperial gallons) suggests that maybe the rider didn't actually completely fill the tank up, probably for several gas stops in a row or made a mathematical error

    These are the dry weights published in the article


    Motorcycle S10 MS GS

    Dry Weight 261kg 192kg 223kg




  7. japako

    japako Been here awhile

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    I have to jump in and add to the fuel mileage reports. I don't believe the bikes will get the type of mileage in the States, that you are getting across the pond.
    We are using Ethanol in our gas and that will drop the mileage around 10-15%, maybe more. I went from 44mpg to 36mpg on my last bike when I could no longer buy Ethanol free gas.

    Just an FYI..
  8. GrahamD

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    I think Yellow Lambo's are the best. Ferrari's chew oil and get lousy fuel economy. Lambo's have been imbued with German logic, and are therefore now even more superior!
  9. MoBill

    MoBill Smiles when says dat

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    Another +1 to that....I got used to the DL doing about 240 during commuting..with a personal best of 264...need those long legs.

    And another +1 to can't wait...I mean I can and I will happily under the circumstances....but I'm dreaming of that video of Wasp's exhaust.
  10. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

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    Measured weights Fully fueled Kg

    GSA 273
    S10 268
    MTS 223 *(Different Scales)
  11. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

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    Agree, It's something to keep in mind. However the Strom Gets about the same on 98RON and 91RON E10. Best range on 91 RON E0, but a tiny bit rough, 95RON E0 is its sweet spot, and 98 E0 is a waste but works ok, except for a slight wheeziness at 3-4K. Also the same type of fuel from different manufacturers have different ranges as well.
    It's a mess out there I tell ya!

    The S10 has a closed loop system, so it may be worse or better. Dunno?

    We also get E85 now. Wonder how an MTS would go with 15:1 compression and a bigger tank. :evil

    Cheers
    Graham
  12. AL-58

    AL-58 BMWs make good landfill

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    Min requirement on the S10 is 95, which thankfully is ethanol free. Haven't ridden mine enough to check the real consumption figures, but it is very good, they are an economical bike like the TDM900 was. But with the speedo reading 10-11% fast how much do I trust the dash computer. I need to check the odometer reading against one of the 5km speedo check areas on the freeways to see if/how much any correction is required. The bike is apparently getting a quite consistent 4.8-5 km/l (I don't do l/100km, sorry).

    Al

  13. A Knight Who Says Ni

    A Knight Who Says Ni Been here awhile

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    :huh ummm... that cannot be right. that is under 20km per gallon (and under 12 miles/ gallon)


    what am I reading wrong here?
  14. japako

    japako Been here awhile

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    Got me stumped also.. maybe it was a typo?
  15. Dastard

    Dastard Just another guy

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    About to place my order and I am wondering if the factory luggage is really that bad or if I should plan to go with something else? Are any of the factory add ons worth it? Are any "necessary" (as in they improve the bike/comfort/etc so much that you wouldn't take them off)?

    I don't need to order the parts with the bike but the dealer is giving me a pretty decent discount on any extras I get so I am just trying to figure out who to go with.

    Thanks

    Dastard
  16. A Knight Who Says Ni

    A Knight Who Says Ni Been here awhile

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    the way I see it, the only reason to get the factory panniers would be if you really care about the width of the bike over every other factor. They are just about the most narrow option when mounted.
  17. RoyQ

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    I personally don't see a problem with the OEM luggage. If the locks are fiddly then push down on the friggin lid then turn the key, seems rather simple to me. Surely a little thin key won't turn the lock mechanism with the lid under pressure from a water tight seal gasket. I've had Jesse bags :pissedin the past so I will deal with the OEM bags and be happy. At least my keys won't be the same as everyone else's. And of course they look the best IMO. I don't need 55 gallon drums hanging off the side of the bike to travel.:lol3

    I am planning on going OEM.:wink:

    Go ahead pull the trigger...
  18. dcstrom

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    That was true until last week when the first pics of the Jesse S10 bags started showing up. Same width as the OEM, a lot more capacity. I'm sure both racks and bags will be stronger too. No pricing yet but most likely only a little more expensive than the OEM (depending on how much discount you're getting from your dealer of course).

    Go here:
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15427729#post15427729

    Actually only now did I read the release properly - they have THREE options - 105 litres/35.5" (same width as stock but holding an extra 41 litres), 90l/33.5 (these will be mine I think - 2" narrower than stock but holding 25 litres more) and 112 litres/38".

    Trevor
  19. RoyQ

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    Jesse bags, no thanks been there done that twice and both times thank god for Home Depot (drill bits, washers, dremel tips, bolts and my know how) or they would have never fit each bike. Not to mention the locks simply fell out of both sets of bags over time and were only held in my by epoxy. And my keys worked in two other friends bags and their keys worked in my bags.:huh Service after the sale was uggh shall I be nice, non-existent. $1100 bucks both times. The bags were big was about the only upside to the sale.
  20. Dastard

    Dastard Just another guy

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    Thanks for the replies. Now can anyone tell me if an arai xd can fit in the topcase and if you can fit two, one gallon jugs in the 32l right bag?

    Also, what are the deminsions of the boxes.

    Thanks

    Dastard