The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

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    It wouldn't be the first time that has happened to someone after sitting for a while.

    I can see a minor trend.

    Mention it to your dealer and see if they have heard of it.

    If they don't sell many ring around a bit.

    But sounds like injectors injecting while sparks plugs not sparking for some reason.

    Cheers
    Graham
  2. Paulvt1

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    Odd. Mine sits for weeks with no attention then fires up just fine.
  3. advNZer?

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    I a lurker on this thread...wasnt there a post on one of the s10 threads where this very thing happened...maybe a low voltage thing ?
  4. SuperCruise

    SuperCruise Been here awhile

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    Why would a modern bike flood like that? Admittedly, I've had a similar thing happen before when I started the bike successfully but it died when I put it into first because the sidestand was still down (doh). Crank it over and it would not start, but go WOT and crank it and it starts right away. I didn't try this this time because it never started the first time. Again, why would a modern bike flood like that on first start?
  5. Old Git Ray

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    Could it have been a combination of fiddling with it over the grips and then haveing not tried the WOT starting thing, it just compounded the issue by pumping more fuel in that was not being burned whilst you were fiddling with the plugs etc.

    As I am sure you already know but all FI vehicles pump more fuel into a cold engine than normal so the situation just compounds itself and wet plugs allow the spark to arc along the ceramic instead of across the gap.
    In the old days we would just turn the choke and the fuel tap off but that cannot be done with FI systems.

    I could of couse be talking rubish but in any case it's good to know the WOT method works.
  6. GrahamD

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    I don't know but modern cars do it too. My wife has managed it a few times, but that is usually a combination of starting it with the foot half buried on the throttle and then dumping it in gear and flooring it on a cold morning.

    Cough, cough, flood.

    Leave it for 15 minutes and all is OK. WOT doesn't even save it initially. You just have to leave it alone for a while.
  7. SuperCruise

    SuperCruise Been here awhile

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    Thanks guys. I've learned something new and if it happens again I hopefully I won't have to fluff around as much to get it to start.
  8. markjenn

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    Glad you have it sorted. You probably know this, but just in case, I'll mention that most modern FI'ed bikes (S10 included) are designed to be started, hot or cold, with a completely closed throttle. You only do the WOT trick if you think the bike is flooded.

    - Mark
  9. dcstrom

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    Nick Sanders has updated his blog

    http://www.nicksanders.com/2011/parallel_world.html

    They've turned off tracking at the moment, but as of this morning he was in central Mexico.

    Tires seem to be an issue - he wore one to the cords and had to make an unscheduled stop to get it changed, and after leaving Salt Lake City where the bike had a service, he now has FIVE tires on board...

    Trevor
  10. Old Git Ray

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    Those Conti Attacks are good tyres but not realy for what he is doing with them. Then again, no tyre is designed to be ridden almost 100 % in the centre.
    Good to see the bike can be serviced even before they get them in the US. The service parts also fit several other Yamahas. Thats the beauty of the bike, its easy in all respects.:D
  11. SuperCruise

    SuperCruise Been here awhile

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    The Super Tenere certainly has an appetite for rear tyres on long flat roads. My last one only lasted 10 000 kms and Nick is doing 5 x that.
  12. kpresco2

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    The Trail Attacks certainly outlast the Tourance EXP's - I got 10000 k on my EXP rear tyre.

    The trail attack I have on now has done 11500ks - and probabaly has 3-4000 k more left in it - but I will be replacing it this week due to a puncture...:cry


    Ken
  13. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    How are the Trail Attacks on gravel roads?
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    There are so many variables involved in tire life, one cycle of a tire really doesn't constitute enough data to say much of anything about how long they'll last.

    My overall take is that Tourances continue to be about the highest mileage tire in this genre.

    - Mark
  15. GOBBOMAI

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    You can find all the works of that bike (panniers, rear rack etc etc) on the www.clubtenereitalia.it forum, at this post

    Work In Progress...by Tosco60!!

    http://www.clubtenereitalia.it/viewtopic.php?p=7046450#7046450

    The nickname of the guys is TOSCO60 and he produce and sell a lot of works for the ST1200...........
  16. dcstrom

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    Right - but that's old Tourance, not the EXP's (that will come stock on our S10's, if they don't come with Battlewings). Apart from mileage, performance everywhere else is "average or below average".
  17. kpresco2

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    Mark you are correct and I should have qualified my statement by saying it was only my opinion - it is however an opinion formed after having run both tyres on an S10.

    Don't get me wrong, I think the Tourance is a great tyre, but for my riding style and budget, I think the Trail Attacks suit me better.

    Ken.
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    The rear is OK - have not had the front on all that long, so I really can't comment on it just yet.

    Ken.
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    By all reports, the TA's are a good tire. I'm just saying that if mileage is what you're after, my money is on Tourances (apparently not the EXPs) lasting the longest. It's the tire I'm going to be putting on my S10 if I'm going on a long trip and need to stretch the tire mileage to avoid a mid-tour tire change.

    - Mark
  20. Big Mistake onWheels

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    I got 9000 to 10,000 miles out of rear Tourances on my GS. Lots was 2 up on dirt. Seemed pretty good to me. Kept the new Tourances I just put on the GS before a deer totaled it. I'm told they'll fit my Tenere. Hope so. Have been impressed with Tourances. Have seen no real need for knobbies other than deepish mud & sand.