The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. TEN YC

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    nope, there are not many motorcycle ads on tv, but there are certainly plenty of smartasses on the internet
  2. Cruz

    Cruz Lost but laughing.

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    Anyone know the translation for any of that?

    Am I presuming that they do not consider the 1200 to be a true Tenere and that some Europeans don't think much of it? :ear. Or have I misread your post?
  3. GrahamD

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    Yeah I know all about that, but there seems to be also mention of lots of enthusiasm and low sales even in those days.

    The Europeans also pushed to have Suzuki release an adventure bike as well after they got bitten by the DR BIG, which was a sales flop because a bit of frame was a bit weak. How times have changed.
    Now a bike is expected to be so light that frames DO break.

    Anyway it seems to me that Greek and Italian interest is high but the last time I saw figures from Germany they were running at low numbers compered to the GS for whatever reason.

    Is is probably just like the HD experience in the States. Doesn't matter what anyone else does it's not a HD.

    As well as that it seemed to take MCN in the UK about 10 years to acknowledge that maybe the Wee was a good thing for the money. Usually after it is superseded and/or deleted.

    I don't make a living from collecting stats, so if I was blowing smoke out my ass then call me a 2 stroke.
  4. GrahamD

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    The only advertising I see on TV is Ewen and Charlie and that Video clip where they "accidentally" do a closeup on the BMW badge.
  5. jaumev

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    I think the ST sales in Spain are ok. For example my dealer, in Vic near Barcelona, sold 14 last year and this is a small town. But he is very active and he tries hard to introduce the bike in the market.
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    T-cosmic Been here awhile

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    "Gentle"(T mode) 200k long ride...


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  7. GrahamD

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    How do you manage that on a gentle T mode ride. What temperature was it at the time?
    What fuel?
  8. T-cosmic

    T-cosmic Been here awhile

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    Temperature was cca 20 deg C. Fuel 95 ROZ.


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  9. GrahamD

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    Weird.
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    T-cosmic Been here awhile

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    Why? You think it should be more? With 5,5-6,0 in S, i'am in warp mode. :)


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  11. GrahamD

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    No, it was similar conditions to me when I did 4.5. So another Litre per 100 on top of that, unless you were breaking the dreaded "130Km/hour" guzzle barrier. :deal
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    Trust the fuel gauge readout on the S10. Only way to check gas milage is to fill tank and ride till its almost empty, then fill again and see how much it took then divide the milage. I get about 50mpg Imperial on S mode riding semi aggresive on gravel and paved.:norton
  13. GrahamD

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    Yes I know, What I got was all corrected.
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    Now I'm really puzzled, what part of "OUTSOLD ANY OTHER BIKE" and "WAS MOTORCYCLE OF THE YEAR" did you not understand?

    Those days, you saw Teneres on every corner on every street. Europe was in Tenere fever. It was beautiful. And yes, I had one too.

    Indeed, after the overwhelming/sweeping SALES SUCCESS of the ORIGINAL 1983 Tenere in GERMANY, ITALY and FRANCE, Europe was left has the largest Tenere fanbase/following AND consequently the largest combined Tenere knowledgebase in the entire world.

    Point is: I would guess that those guys heard of the Yamaha 1200, know what they are doing and don't really need advice from anybody who never owed a Yamaha before.
  15. T-cosmic

    T-cosmic Been here awhile

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    Btw 100-130kmh...yeah, that's gentle.


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  16. GrahamD

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    Well fuck I'll just have to shut up then now I have been put in my place. Maybe you should do a flying visit to Australia and rev up the dealers with some of that excess love you have to spread around.

    Now what are the actual sales figures for the S10 THESE Days. with sources. Would love to know.

    Have you got one yet?
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    According to Motorrad's 25 Years Tenere Homage:

    http://www.motorradonline.de/de/motorraeder/25-jahre-yamaha-tnr/94605
    "[...Die Ténéré schlug ein wie die sprichwörtliche Bombe. Die erste Variante brachte es auf 10500 Käufer in Europa, wo sie 1984 und 1985 das am häufigsten verkaufte Motorrad war...]"

    = >

    "...The Tenere hit like a bomb. The first version found 10500 buyers in Europe, where in 1985 and 1985 it became the most sold motorcycles.
    .."

    This Yamaha Motor Deutschland page lists the current numbers for all Dual Purpose Yamahas sold in Germany incl. the 1200.
    http://www.yamaha-motor.de/de/informationen/motorrad/35jahre-xt.aspx

    However it seems like their historical data for the original Tenere is incomplete, as their statistic are divided between 20KW and 32KW Models and they forgot to list the numbers for the 20KW Tenere models.

    Nope, in short: not off-roady enough for my needs and I'm perfectly covered with what I have now.
    But I'm would consider the rumored upcoming 900, if it is something that truly resembles more of the Dakar YZE/XTZ 850.
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    What kind of oil are you using? :lol3
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    Almost certain it will clear full compression as it curves up into the frame. The critical part is directly over the wheel, the more forward the less an issue it is. I'm not worried. :D
  20. GrahamD

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    OK so if the Gesamt means total, by their own figures the current one is selling at about 10-20% of the rate of the GS/A.

    Which is sort of what I have read else where. So I don't know what your beef is Mr Wind. If it was the Bimota XT1200z I am sure Bimota would be partying in the streets.

    I don't think that is very fair on YAMAHA but like I said it's the HD thing all over again.

    As long as YAMAHA are happy with that then fine. I think the US sales have surpassed that and the AUs sales are about 1/3, which is pretty good for a tenth of the population.

    I don't think any of the Japanese manufacturers are going to get close to the GS/A. The Triumph might in England because they will win every shootout and be the answer to world hunger and the YAMAHA has some dirt DNA in it which the English press don't get at all. If YAMAHA release a spindly framed, R1 based jacked up sports bike they may be in with a chance, but they have made a real RTW bike which is a bit too "real world" for the English press it seems.

    And as Suzuki found out, you have to be in it of the long haul to become a "standard".

    For people in OZ it's a great compromise with the kind of roads we have to deal with out here though.

    It's also a great bike in the real world and as long as YAMAHA keep up the spares I don't really care. If they do an XT900Z I will be in line for one of those for sure, if it is of the same quality.