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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.
The man has a point there !
I don't remember ever reading anything like this, so I don't think it's 205, but I had a heartstopping moment the other day. I left for work as I do every morning and let the bike idle while I put in my earplugs, put on my helmet, and pulled on my gloves. Call it 60 seconds maximum. I then left home and rode out to the freeway, which is about two blocks from my house. It was early in the morning, so I didn't have to wait for traffic or lights in order to get on the freeway. As I got to the bottom of the on-ramp, my merging head check revealed a tractor-trailer bearing down on me in the lane that I needed to be in. I wailed hard on the throttle (probably harder than I should have on a cold engine) to get out in front of him. As soon as I was on the freeway I glanced down and saw that the oil pressure light was illuminated. I immediately pulled over onto the shoulder and made my way up to the next exit in the breakdown lane at low rpms. After 10 seconds or so, the light went out and didn't come back on.
Naturally, I had visions of some kind of catastrophic oil leak, but when I got off the freeway and put the bike on the center stand, I could see in the sight glass that the oil level was exactly right - perfectly in between the low mark and the high mark. There was no evidence of any leaks, so I started back up and went on to work. The light has not come back on since, although I have been more careful to baby it until it comes up to temperature.
Anyone else have an experience like this? I'm assuming that my hard revving while cold meant that the thicker, cold oil couldn't circulate fast enough, but that frankly seems a little strange to me.
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has happened to many - just add another 200ml to top of sight-glass and enjoy the ride
Mine did that after an oil change. Same thing, panic pull over thinking the filter had
come off or a loose drain plug. Let it sit a moment sight glass was fine. Started it
up and it never came on again.
It is an oil level light, not pressure.
As Fred said it's an oil Level warning light not a pressure light.
As Bundu said put a few extra mm in the thing to bring it up to the full level if you are worried.
The basic explanation is.
With dry sump motors you have the oil being scavenged from the bottom of the motor and pumped back into the reservoir tank. It is picked up from that tank and pumped through the motor and it all drips back down into the collector at the bottom of the engine where it is picked up again and pumped back to the tank.
You have two drain plugs on the S10, one at the rear which drains the majority of the oil in the tank and one toward the front of the bike that drains the small amount left in the plate.
When the bike is cold it sometimes takes a bit longer for the oil to get back to the tank and the level drops which means you probably have more oil in the motor than usual not less, if you get my drift.
So you can fill the thing to the top of the sight glass without any consideration of the engine "drowning in oil" because the oil doesn't sit in the engine. No pistons will be slopping around in too much oil. (within reason that is).
So fill it up to the top of the glass and be happy.
Kind of ironic but mine did that for the first time just the other day. After a few seconds of panic, I remembered that others had reported the same non-event. The oil level was in the sight glass but on the low side.
Also, if you read the owner's manual it addresses this specific phenomenon. I'm paraphrasing," Even if the engine has sufficient oil it is normal for the low oil light to momentarily come on during periods of extreme acceleration, deceleration, or riding on an slope."
I'm probably a little late to this party. Did you ever get your wife to see the light?
Here's one just over the border....
Those are some good prices!
I also think it would be great if Kawasaki brought the KLX650 back. I don't think they gave it enough of a chance back when it was available, and the choices in that class now, at least in the US, are not plentiful. A 650 with liquid cooling, Japanese reliability and 11" travel suspension would be, and was, a great bike.
Write to Kawasaki, tell them you want it - ??
If Kawasaki builds something I personally hope it would be something a lot more like this...
That's a KLR with a Versys 650 Twin inserted into it. I have met the gentleman who built the bike in the pictures (he just purchased my personal Versys so he can build another one in a 2nd Generation KLR donor), and from what he says this type of sled might be what many of us are looking for... BTW, apparently the Versys twin is no heavier than the KLR single it replaces. He also said the Versys engine had smoother, better power in off-road situations, yet could also easily cruise at over 85 MPH all day long on the slab.
If Kawasaki could build an under 400-lb Versys-engine-based twin with *REAL* off-road capable suspension, a 21"/18" wheel combination, and a real dual-purpose riding position I think they'd have a real market winner on its hands.
Just my two centavos... OMMV.
p.s. - BTW, the builder of the bike above is considering the idea of building these KLR/Versys hybrids and making them available for sale.
I saw one of these at Roll the Bones a couple weekends ago:
That's the same bike, and the same guy... He just had his bags, skidplate, etc. mounted up. He told me he did the "Roll the Bones" rally after he had returned from his extended trip to Moab, etc.
Really nice guy. Very smart, and obviously very capable. He used the entire Versys wiring harness, Versys handlebar switch assemblies (and he even installed electronic cruise control!!! :eek1), adapted the Versys instrument panel to the KLR dash and fairing, used an 650 Ninja twin radiator to fit underneath the KLR bodywork, adapted the Versys shift linkage, etc., etc., etc., etc.
Hard to tell Kawasaki didn't build it themselves.
Hi. I just got back from a 700 kilometer-ride and just saw me rear wheel being all splashed with something. Apparently my bike is leaking oil from the transmission. It had a big drop of oil still holding beneath the tranny.
It is definitely oil cause of the smell. I did the first oil change at 1000 kilometers adding the exact amount of oil the manual says and it dripped through the refilling hole.
My bike has now 3500 kilometers. Have you had the same problem?? Would it be definitely a leak??? I have heard of some bikes that have too much grease from factory in the rear spindles and it melts out as you ride.
I have another question for you guys. I keep hearing a "click" noise coming from the front end when the suspension is sagging through medium to bigger bumps. What would it be??
As you see English is not my native language!!!!
Rare to see that clean of a frankenstien bike. At first I thought you just wanted a first
generation KLR to come back then looked close. I think I would still prefer to have it
shoe horned into the KLX model.
I bet that bike opens a few eyes to those who try and run with it not knowing what's under the hood.
Check your sump area to be safe. Both drain plug zones too.
Not heard of a single leaking case without some sort of impact.
I don't know about the transmission leak but check the steering bolt to the "click" noise.... as you see English is not my native language as well
Jaumev saludos. Ahora cuando llegue y vi la fuga de aceite por debajo de la transmisión la limpie, y hace unos minutos fui a ver y no tiene más aceite por ningun lado. No se que podria ser. Yo he no hecho off road como para darle un golpe como dice Pluric.
Tu tambien oias el click como por la dirección o la suspension. La tuerca que debo apretar es la que tiene el tapón de caucho??
Pluric, I have checked my sump, my drain plugs from engine and final drive, and there is no oil coming from there. It is coming from the back of the final drive case, as if it were from the axle. Any idea??? Although I wiped the oil off and there is no more coming from anywhere..
The thread about the bike is worth a read...
And the picture gallery of the build are worth a few minutes of perusal, too...
I visited with the builder for quite some time and he had some great stories to tell, as well as enlightening insight as to how he came to construct the project. One of the best stories he had was from the "Roll the Bones" rally...
Apparently one day he rode along with a group of seven or eight riders that he didn't know. A couple of Beemer G/S riders, a KTM or two, and some other KLR's. They rode together all day, and at one stop late in the day one of the other riders mentioned that he had heard that "that guy that built the KLR/Versys bike is at the rally somewhere..." (I'm paraphrasing), not realizing he had been riding next to the very bike and rider all day. Seems none of the other riders in the group realized it until the builder told them...
Said it was kind of high praise that no one had noticed it wasn't a Kawasaki factory built machine.
Another good story was about his letting a BMW G/S owner ride the bike. According to him when the Beemer rider returned he wanted to immediately swap his nearly new G/S for the "Frankenbike" KLR/Versys - even!