The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. Xeroo

    Xeroo sweeet!

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    im hangin on to that but

    Jackson did sing it doesnt matter if you black or White ..

    but if you gray what will happend then :evil:ear
  2. snakebitten

    snakebitten Small Town Hick

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    Yea, I'm on OEM suspension currently and that shot would result in a hard knock on mine. (20,000 miles) She is feeling soggy a bit, compared to new. And I rode an S10 with about 50,000 miles on it and I thought the seat was in the low position. It wasn't!

    Compared to OEM from decades past, I admit the Tenere is really nice. But to ride it like this guy is, you need Dallara's bike. Or one that gets kitted with the coming Tabasco-Ohlins getup.

    Can't wait. :)
  3. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

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    :clap seriously good shot... :clap

    I find the OEM fine, not the best but pretty good for OEM. I don't jump on purpose but where I live it's going to happen at some point.

    What I have found though is the standard setting for me at 85Kg was slightly under damped with the OEM tires. A click or two more on the damping fixed that for the front.

    When the K60's went on I needed a couple of clicks more to smooth it back out. I think the back could do with some more damping controls as well.

    However I don't think YAMAHA expected the "pipe and slippers" brigade would be doing what many have ended up doing, otherwise they would have fitted even stiffer longer suspension.

    Compared to the Strom 1K which was a bit softer on the street, but then tended to suffer "lockup" when it got really crappy, I think that it is really sweet.

    Those that have the gold plated suspension fitted to their bikes may disagree but fancy suspension is something I will only look at when it is re build time. starting with the rear.

    But what I can say is that this bike has me chasing limits rather than avoiding them so time will tell.
  4. Dallara

    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    When do you think you'll be ready for a suspension rebuild, Graham?

    Just curious. As you know I went the whole nine yards with Stoltec... Penske rear shock and Eibach spring out back. Penske valving and new springs up front. But I didn't do mine until it was a year old and had over 21,000 miles on it. What amazed me was finding out just how badly the stock suspension had degraded over time. Like you, I thought the stock suspension was pretty good (though too soft - I had to ride with the rear preload cranked full stiff from day one) when I got the bike, but then as miles piled up I began to notice it being a bit limp. It was only when I put on the new suspension pieces that I realized just how bad things had gotten.

    To say the new suspension pieces were an incredible revelation would even be a gross understatement! :lol3

    On thing to note... When Nick Stoten at Stoltec pulled my forks apart he was rather surprised at the wear of the fork bushings on both legs. Though they were not *worn out*, they were worn to the point that he recommended I replace them no later than about 30,000 to 32,000 miles (when the oil is about due to be changed again). So that's something perhaps everyone should keep an eye on.

    He also told me that despite the Super Tenere's forks *looking* like a nice set of MX or Enduro bike forks that they were far from it internally. Essentially the internals are built off of a couple of years back R6, so that's something else you might want to note.

    Just FYI...

    Dallara



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  5. WIsixfitty

    WIsixfitty ceiling unlimited

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    690E? selling? :ear:1drink

    Color? I have black one, but then I am very comfortable with my sexuality. :wink:
  6. jaumev

    jaumev Long timer

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    Soft if you want to do serious off road

    Ok for touring or soft off road
  7. simmons1

    simmons1 Long timer

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    I concur.
  8. jaumev

    jaumev Long timer

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    I upgrade my suspension to a BM with lots of adjustments including the length. The bike handling improves a lot and is the best investment if you want to save your sump. :thumb
  9. Dallara

    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    I couldn't agree more...

    The only two "performance" upgrades to my S-10 is the Penske suspension and the ECUunleashed re-flash, and I think those are the two best things you can do to the bike. IMHO maybe the two best cost/benefit ratio things out there.

    The ECU re-flash gets rid of all the low-end stumble, etc., smooths out the power delivery, and eliminates the throttle restriction in the first three gears... In my mind giving you the power delivery the design engineers intended before the emission compliance guys got involved.

    And then the suspension upgrade pays you dividends all across the board... Smoother, more compliant ride while still being firmer and more controlled... More ground clearance, both for off-road riding and cornering clearance on the pavement... Less fore and aft pitching under acceleration and braking... Better traction, better control, better feel, and better surface feedback... It just makes everything better, period.

    And even when you do both you have way less money wrapped up in the motorcycle than a BMW G/S, all while still having something more reliable and with suspension custom built just for you!!! :D

    Dallara



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  10. GrahamD

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    When it's giving me the shits..
  11. Dallara

    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    Well, that's an interesting way to gauge rebuild intervals... :rofl

    But seriously, what I was trying to ask is at what mileage you think you will be pulling your forks apart, etc.?

    Thanks!

    Dallara



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  12. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

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    The 20,000Km+ winter tear down. I'll be having a look and if what I see gives me the shits OR if the new oil doesn't work and gives me the shits....

    I'll be looking at some shock treatment.

    As far as anything goes, like skyhook, multi-adjustable, wiz bang magic carpet DES error suspension goes..Fine as long as they give me the source code and the complete engineering specs and software tools with the bike.

    This hidden propriety computer stuff has gone far enough I think.
  13. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    The KLR owner in me senses an opportunity to pick up everyones "lightly" used
    items off ebay and not sweat the small stuff.:D

    I'll just get some fancy shock stickers from Jaumev. No one looks that close anyway.:deal
  14. llamapacker

    llamapacker Mr. Conservative

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    I also put the penske front and back with new springs, but I kept my 800 lb spring and the OEM shock, also still have the OEM fork springs, and some .95s and I never owned a KLR. :evil
  15. snakebitten

    snakebitten Small Town Hick

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    Pluric,

    Too late to claim you "KLR Thriftiness" with the Tenere. You are way deep$$$$. Maybe not Penske$$
    But you can't hide those wheels by Woody.
  16. simmons1

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    You haven't lived until you have owned a KLR:thumb
  17. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    KLR ownership can go either way. Feel the need to be cheap, blame it on
    the KLR. Need to splurge? Again blame it on all the years of self denial
    during KLR ownership. :D Ya just can't lose.:deal

    The Tenere just would not accept the duct tape wheel repair that a KLR would have
    been grateful for. I'm having to make a few adjustments now living with the blue princess.
  18. Xeroo

    Xeroo sweeet!

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    yeah probably i do sell the 690 i love the bike but i cant afford to have two bike When the first child is coming and with all ive read about s10 it seems to fit me :)

    no chain
    cheep to own
    and can do soft offroad :)


    after all the s10 is more motorcycle bike than 690 ;)

    im not getting old just more sensitive....well ;)
    hopefully some i can do some wheelie with s10 too ;)
  19. ~TABASCO~

    ~TABASCO~ www.rideonadv.com

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    Hey guys...

    For all the folks that own a Tenere but dont visit the yamahasuperenere forum, I just made a new post on Advrider about the BIG COLORADO event in Ouray, CO next summer... Here is the link on this site.... Just wanted to pass along a little info for the other folks that might want to take part, and might not know anything about it..... Looking forward to seeing you all in CO next summer !

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=852834
  20. RedRocker

    RedRocker Native Texican

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    I could help you out with that! :evil