The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. GrahamD

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    I think what you are refering to is called precision lightweight engineering.

    I suppose we will have to wait and see what happens to a tenere when it hits a small Audi to be certain, but shooot man :huh were you on it at the time?
  2. Saso

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    I suspect there will be some amazing ride reports from remote parts of the world involving these bikes in the years to come.
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    Yup that's what i meant, that GS had a lot of sheared of parts just by the decelleration (which was quite abrupt i have to say) the komplete subframe whit the beak was loose, the protruding lips of the headstock mountings were all broken open...

    And luckily i wasn't on it, sadly my girlfriend was on it, had some mending to do, but now she rides a 660 B10 (baby-tenere)

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    And that was a real eyeopener, we also have a Derbi with that 660 engine, but in the Yamaha it is a real magnitude nicer, where the Derbi balk and bucks at low rev's the Tenere is a real smooth-operator©

    Knowing the impressive traction of the TDM900 270°, i expect great ridability, and impressive traction out of corners, with the Ducati Oumpfff which pushes you into the buddy, feel ing the tires claw into the tarmac.

    Will cost a lot of TKC's knobblies i'm affriad...
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    Just clicked that link had a read of your better half's story. Amazing girl you have there, huge respect to her.
  5. llamapacker

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    R3B, terrible accident, but great story! She is a "real trooper" as we would say here.

    She has a very nice way with words and web posting. Might could write a book. I would expect it would be interesting read.
  6. mrbreeze

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    that sounds like some pretty good engineering to me - if the bike had not absorbed the blow, the rider would have. I'm glad to hear she's OK.
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    ironic given ducati's new multi is like twice the power and half the weight. Let's see if i were going to spend 15 or 20 k on a bike :rofl
  8. coast range rider

    coast range rider Been here awhile

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    Ducati Multi 1200 has labor intensive maintenance and smaller front tire. Otherwise looks much better than Super Tenere to me too. I suppose Yamaha is more reliable than Ducati?
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    Anybody have any idea where the air filter is and how convenient the access is? (Important for those that would ride in the dirt, and a real PITA on the VStroms)
  10. Garand

    Garand Keeper of Useful Sarcasms

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    Personally I like it, Hopefully we'll be able to get them in the States!

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  11. dcstrom

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    Isn't the front wheel on the concept bike shown at the Tokyo Show a 21 incher? Definitely has more dirt-oriented tires on it than the release version.

    Maybe the engineers WANTED to do something more KTM-like, but the marketers got cold feet?

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  12. ag_streak

    ag_streak Tiene Ruta Cuarenta?

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    Holy Crap! THIS must not have been much fun!!

    <img src="http://www.sylviastuurman.nl/motor/majorcrash/bekken.jpg"
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    Foto afkomstig van:
    <a href="http://www.sylviastuurman.nl">Sylvia Stuurman en Ernst Anepool.</a>

    Scary! I'm glad Sylvia's OK. Good on her! :freaky
  13. R3B

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    Ehm better first get yer facts right, the Duc aka The Mandril, is a SMT with just a little less lard, and only a bit more hp, but at high revs 118,7 Nm @ 7500 rpm, compared with the 114 Nm @6000 of the Tenere, and knowing the Yamaha Kodo philosophy (a little less blunt power, a it more ridability) i think it will even be ideal to plodder through jampacked traffic in central london. And then wrench it open to get to the boat to Santande in half an hour (without changin gears more than a time or four :-)
  14. eakins

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    looks 19" to me.

  15. eakins

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    most people see this as a reliable, low-maintenance copy of the 1200gs, which it is.

    if you were at yamaha making a design & $$$ decession on what this bike should be, would copy a 1200gs (the bike that has extremely strong sales worldwide, is the benchmark for the adv category & is bmw's best seller) or a 990 adv (a niche bike, that doesn't sell anywhere as good)???

    so? what's your answer?

    yamaha builds what they think will sell very well, not what is a niche, cool bike. judging by the brisk sales (during a economic downturn) of the wr250r & the tenere worldwide, i'd say yamaha knows perfectly how to execute a DS/ADV bike for the broad market. neither of these bike are cutting edge in performance yet they are flying off the shelf.

    in the end the majority of people worldwide want reasonable performance and features, with a reasonable price built around a solidly reliable machine.
    yamaha delivers and will also deliver with this bike. i predict sales to be extremely well.


    bmw has built their reputation on premium machines/pricing that are suppose to be solidly built/reliable.
    as we have seen the reliability pereception(reality) has serious flaws and so people are questioning why am i paying so much more for this and having more problems. like toyota, this crack opens a huge void for the super tenere to fill. without bmw's missteps, yamaha might not have ever built this bike.

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    I am so glad that I don't work as a designer for a motorcycle manufacturer. I dunno what the tallest building is in Japan, but after listening to some of you guys, I'd probably be on the ledge of it. :lol3

    Yamaha obviously targeted the heavyweight dual sport market, because that is where the sales numbers are. How many 990 Adventure units does KTM sell? I'm guessing not enough to even be a blip on the RADAR, at least in the US. I don't think Yamaha is interested in spending a lot of R&D $$$ to create another orphan bike for a small niche of a larger niche.

    This has the potential to be a great bike, and get the Big 4 competing in the big dual sport market in earnest. I'm at least going to reserve judgement until I can read about it from someone who has ridden one and not just speculate. I'd like to see one of these and a BMW GS weighed side by side, and my guess is that they'll be pretty close in actuality (<8%). Weight is not always a bad thing, and weight in the right places can create more robust components that take more abuse without failing. And some of the folks who complain about the weight are no doubt less than svelte, potentially causing a more serious issue by raising the bikes CG. After people actually ride it and the weight issue is ruled in or out, then it is all about how it performs and how it meshes with your particular riding style.

    And I disagree that they won't take sales from current BMW riders if it is a good performer. There is a subset of people riding BMW's who are sick of the company's crap, but like the way the bike works. Or have been stung by serious mechanical issues (read: $$$$) and just deal with it because there is no easy alternative with a shaft drive. Now there may be another fish in the pond that gives people some options.

    I'll eagerly await learning more about the bike. More choice in the marketplace is generally a good thing.
  17. ktm950se

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    Greetings,
    What's going to protect all that pretty plastic around the gas tank, and the radiator itself, when this thing lays down? Perhaps an engine guard even WIDER than the Yamaha's accessory version? :huh
    At that point the ST will be approaching GS width!:becca

    ktm950se
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    You and I must be channeling each other, because you 205'd me :lol3 :freaky
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    +1 :thumbup

  20. R3B

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    It *is* the protection of the tank, likewise the 660 sideparts are reletive cheap easy to replace "fenders", once invented by Honda on the ST, this (somewhat different) ST follows the same principle.

    I presume the small black handrails under the "tank" just onder the fenderplates are even small parkingspillprotectors.