The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. Geonik

    Geonik Adventurer

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    Does anyone know anything about the price?Solid information,not speculation.Anyway,i knew this would end up in a bmw-yamaha duel.My feeling is yamaha decided to produce a cheaper alternative to the 1200gs adv.What they sould definetly do is to recruit the entire bmw marketing department.Those guys perforn miracles.They could make a 300kg bike look like the ultimate adventurer.I'm also surprised that some people refare to the power output of the multistrada 1200.That bike is a supermoto on steroids,it has nothing to do with adventure riding.Ducati's claim that this bike has an off road riding potencial with a 17'in front rim is an insult to our intelligence
  2. DakarBlues

    DakarBlues One-everythinged man

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    Reminds me of the pucks of the Buell Ulysses, or the tankguardxs of the KTM 990.
    It's the same principle, the difference being they are upside on the Ulysses while they are on the lower side of the tanks on ST and LC8.
    I am pretty sure it has been well thought of to avoid turning said radiator into a
    pancake!
  3. Tee Dee Mmm

    Tee Dee Mmm Long timer

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    It is quoted in MCN as $13,500 british Pounds which comes to about $20,500usd
    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/February/feb2610-yamaha-super-tenere-to-cost-13500/?R=EPI-122421
  4. B.Curvin

    B.Curvin Feral Chia tamer

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    If I hadn't already picked up a 98 Tiger I'd be seriously interested.

    Of course I'd lace a 17" on the front as soon as I got it. :evil

    I look at these bikes as an even more comfortable Bandit1250S and that is my intended use for them.

    The Tiger is my goldwing, sportbike, commuter, weekend curvy road blaster all wrapped up in one,

    and a few dirt roads thrown in here and there.
  5. AKTroy

    AKTroy BE AWARE OF TRAINS

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  6. Roam

    Roam If you want to

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    Before you freak out you should compare the prices of bikes that are already sold in both countries. How much does an R1 cost in the UK compared to the USA?
  7. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

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    Better yet, how much does its direct competitor - the GS -cost in the UK?

    Here is what MCN had to say about the price:

    Yamaha has confirmed the new ‘first edition’ version of the 2010 Super Tenere 1200 will cost £13,500 in the UK.

    The Super Tenere is the bike Yamaha is aiming squarely at the BMW R1200GS and the lucrative and ever-growing adventure bike market.

    If you were to spec up a BMW R1200GS to a similar level as the Yamaha Tenere it would take the basic price of £9925 to around £12,200 – just under £1300 less than the Yamaha.

    The Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere will first appear in a limited ‘first edition’ guise during 2010. This first model will come with parts that will be available as optional accessories in 2011.

    The bike will only be available by reserving it online – no dealers will be getting demo bikes and everything will be sold online; just like the Yamaha V-Max was in 2008.

    To underline the limited edition Super Tenere’s off road ability, the bike will come fitted with left and right aluminium 30-litre (tbc) panniers, purpose-fit headlight protector (for off-road use only), and sturdy aluminium bash plate.

    A unique first edition decal will set this bike apart from the basic model.

    The basic undressed (read cheaper) version of the Super Tenere will appear in 2011 and buyers will be introduced to a world of genuine Yamaha accessories to spec their bikes in a similar way to BMW’s popular R1200GS.

    Official accessories listed so far (www.yamaha-motor-acc.com) on top of the panniers and bash plate for the Super Tenere are:

    Taller screen
    Twin fog light kit
    Engine crash bars
    Heated handlebar grips
    Wind deflector panels
    Super Tenere tagged tank pad
    35mm lower rider’s seat
    Tank bag
    Aluminium 30-litre top box
    Inner bags for panniers and top box
    LED indicators with black, chromed or carbon fibre finish

    We'll have to wait until this all plays out, but the preliminary data is that this "Japanese GS" is both heavier and more expensive than the BMW.

    - Mark
  8. McBoab

    McBoab Fast side of farty

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    If they price compared it to a similarly specced GSA1200 the price gets closer but still wieghed in favour of the GSA, unless u get silly and start speccing ESA and other bits, then price evens out but the GSA probably has more "bits". Thinks YamUK are going to need to discount to ship in significant numbers, may be they just want low volume high profit instead.
  9. rallyman1978

    rallyman1978 Been here awhile

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    £12,620 on the road 2010 RRP for YZF-R1 in the UK
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    Strange, if you take a full-ops beemer in holland you have to pay 3500€ extra upan the aforementioned 16,999€.

    Don't forget to order the beemer iclusive ABS *and* TSC *and* Panniers *and* Touratech tidbits...

    It's now use to compare the whole enchelada with a hamburger without seasoning...
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    tileman Been here awhile

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    This may have been mentioned, I have looked :norton , the bikes looks the part, how will the side mounted rads last when the bike ends up on its side, means the bike would then need engine/rad guards for any reasonable adv touring? Any thoughts?
  12. GrahamD

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    I wonder if the whole tenere thing is a response by Yamaha to go after BMW's top selling bike, because of BMW's move on the YZF-R1 with the S1000RR.

    And secondly, I wonder if the likes of Suzuki and Honda are miffed enough about that to start watching the tenere very closely.

    The Japanese started (with Yamaha from memory) attacking the cruiser space fairly early on once people decided that HD was worth paying big bucks for :huh

    But I suspect, just as was the case with HD and cruisers, the public may just continue buying the "traditional brand" and a few each year will migrate to the new kids on the block but it will take time to build up.

    So I watch the Supersports space and the ADV space with interest at the moment.

    In Australia, while we haven't suffered as greatly with the GFC, R12GS sales have fallen reasonably sharply, but that has been mainly because of the F650/800GS, not other brands.

    So sometimes I wonder whether the general public have a really simple take on the whole thing.

    Cruiser --> Harley
    ADV Tourer --> BMW
    Sports --> JAPS
    Ring Dings and Dak Daks --> JAPS

    In Australia (A very small market)
    KLR650 is the biggest selling ADV Touring bike.
    GS and the Stroms battle for second.
    F800/650 Third.
    and the rest.

    BMW sell the most ADV combined 1128
    Followed by Suzuki Stroms 641
    Kawasaki are next with a single model KLR650 530
    Then Tiger - 172

    KTM are down there somewhere..

    In Australia the Strom market has been growing steadily over the years and has now reached about half the sales volumes of the RRR bikes. (model to model) EG Strom Vs FZ1R.

    Cheers
    Graham
  13. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    Nooooooo, I don't think so.... They look exactly like my TDM900's header pipes, which are high quality stainless steel and holding up very nicely :evil
  14. 996DL

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    Off topic, but I thought Suzuki's DR650 single, outsold the KLR650 in Australia ?
    Got any numbers on DR650's sold...

    996DL
  15. GrahamD

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    OK so for the Ring Dings and DAK DAK's

    In the "offroad" sales charts (Ring Dings)

    <table style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 222pt;" width="295" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><col style="width: 83pt;" width="110" span="2"> <col style="width: 56pt;" width="75"> <tbody><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl63" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 83pt;" width="110" height="17">Suzuki</td> <td class="xl64" style="border-left: medium none; width: 83pt;" width="110">DR-Z400E</td> <td class="xl65" style="border-left: medium none; width: 56pt;" width="75" align="right">1647</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl63" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Honda</td> <td class="xl64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">CRF250R</td> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">1578</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl63" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Yamaha</td> <td class="xl64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">WR450F</td> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">1558</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl63" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Yamaha</td> <td class="xl64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">PW50</td> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">1535</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl63" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Honda</td> <td class="xl64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">CRF450R</td> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">1431</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl63" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Yamaha</td> <td class="xl64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">YZ250F</td> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">1284</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl63" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Honda</td> <td class="xl64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">CRF230F</td> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">1278</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl63" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Yamaha</td> <td class="xl64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">TTR50</td> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">1174</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl63" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Honda</td> <td class="xl64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">CRF50F</td> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">1136</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl63" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Yamaha</td> <td class="xl64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">YZ450F</td> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">1050</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

    TRAIL CHARTS (DAK DAKS)
    <table style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 310pt;" width="413" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><col style="width: 83pt;" width="110" span="2"> <col style="width: 56pt;" width="75"> <col style="width: 44pt;" width="59" span="2"> <tbody><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 83pt;" width="110" height="17">Honda</td> <td class="xl66" style="border-left: medium none; width: 83pt;" width="110">CRF230F</td> <td class="xl67" style="border-left: medium none; width: 56pt;" width="75" align="right">1278</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-left: medium none; width: 44pt;" width="59" align="right">1148</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-left: medium none; width: 44pt;" width="59" align="right">11.3%</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Yamaha</td> <td class="xl66" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">TTR230</td> <td class="xl67" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">848</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">999</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">-15.1%</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Suzuki</td> <td class="xl66" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">DR650SE</td> <td class="xl67" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">813</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">792</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">2.7%</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Yamaha</td> <td class="xl66" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">XT250</td> <td class="xl67" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">359</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">436</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">-17.7%</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Honda</td> <td class="xl66" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">XR250L</td> <td class="xl67" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">160</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">397</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">-59.7%</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Yamaha</td> <td class="xl66" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">XT660Z</td> <td class="xl67" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">114</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">0</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">100.0%</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Suzuki</td> <td class="xl66" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">DR-Z400S</td> <td class="xl67" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">109</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">102</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">6.9%</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Honda</td> <td class="xl66" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">XR650L</td> <td class="xl67" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">8</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">0</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">100.0%</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Kawasaki</td> <td class="xl66" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">KL250-H</td> <td class="xl67" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">4</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">53</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">-92.5%</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl65" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Yamaha</td> <td class="xl66" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">TTR660</td> <td class="xl67" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">1</td> <td class="xl68" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">0</td> <td class="xl69" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" align="right">100.0%</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
    I was looking at the "Adventure TOURING" bikes, but you are correctomundo if you look at the REAL ADV bikes as well. :clap

    Thanks for that.

    So I wonder where the XT1200Z will appear then?

    BMW might have a big whinge and get them moved to the "OFFROAD" or trail category if they are too successful :rofl

    Cheers
    Graham
  16. wheatwhacker

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    Maybe Yamaha just want to sell to rich people and BMW to not "as rich" people.
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    yea but you forgot the 150 horsepower and the low 400 lbs weight. Thats a bit more than "a little less lard" Oink Oink soooooeeeeee
  18. GrahamD

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    This is true, different kind of bike though.

    How many people are going to take a Ducati anywhere KNARLY knowing it will dumped on a regular basis.

    In Australia, the first dump will have the bike written off.

    It amazes me that people take Stroms and GS's where they do.

    It's the other end of the spectrum to a big KTM.

    It does sealed roads, from rough to smooth and some easy dirt, maybe after a check with the insurance company.

    Cheers
    Graham
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    You forgot to list the Ct110 as well that is stick in road bikes (I think) for some reason.:D
  20. 996DL

    996DL Buell me

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    Much appreciated Graham, I'm always using Australia, New Zealand, South Africa etc., as examples of real world motorcyclists, turning to the DR650 over the KLR650. Tough and challenging locales, where motorcycles are viewed as something more than recreational toys...

    Thanks for providing the sales numbers on the DR650 !

    996DL