The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. Dallara

    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    :lol3 :lol3 :lol3 :lol3 :lol3 :lol3 :lol3


    Ain't it the truth!

    But can't you just hear what those Beemer pilots would be saying if they looked in here?

    Little would they realize... :wink:

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  2. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

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    No But you are right. I suppose in a few years things might start getting exciting round here...

    Anyone approaching 200,000Miles on the S10 yet?
  3. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

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    I can't see with this huge cloud of SMUG around here guys, What was that you wrote Dalllara?...:lol3
  4. Dallara

    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    Sail2xxs over on the Super Tenere forum will crack 100,000 miles this year on his bike, I'm sure (he's at over 72,000 in less than 18 months)... And he'll freely send you his maintenance and upkeep records and costs for his time of ownership just for the asking. I've seen his data and it's pretty amazing. The bike's tougher than an anvil and just as reliable.

    No doubt there will a lot of Super Tenere's do 200-K, no problem.

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  5. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    That sounds as exciting as a refrigerator.:wink:
  6. cug

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    That was a quote from what an inmate added, not the real recall. The recall says:

    "On certain motorcycles, transmission oil pressure may be too high, causing the output shaft sealing ring to leak. Oil leakage ahead of the rear tire could render the vehicle unstable. This could result in a crash causing property damage and/or personal injury. Correction: Dealers will install an oil restrictor to reduce oil pressure at the transmssion output."

    Original can be found here:

    http://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/tc/2013/22751r-eng.php

    I think you need the full context - the quote above is, as I said, from an inmate, who mixed his own comment into the recall text. Which is pretty bad form, but happens all the time.

    The quote I was referring to is (from inmate Marchyman):

    "Think about it for a bit... The recall is about transmission pressure. The LC bike doesn't have a separate transmission with its own transmission fluid that can experience high pressure."

    I'm not saying that it's not a recall for a bike that wasn't even delivered or for a small number of bikes of the currently outgoing oil/air cooled DOHC model. I'm saying it's unclear.
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  8. Dallara

    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    One way to look at it... But I like my refrigerator, and it's been reliable as, well... A Yamaha Super Tenere, and for over 15 years. It's great to know you can depend on something.

    Of course, my 2008 Ducati D16RR Desmosedici has never given me any trouble, either... Nor did my ol' Hypermotard. :lol3

    Now my BMW's on the other hand... Geez! :baldy

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  9. GrahamD

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    I was about to say that is from the site itself BUT it still may be wrong...

    It may apply to the 2012 2013 model and not the 2013 2013 model if you get what I am saying :scratch

    http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/7/VRDB-BDRV/search/recalldetail.aspx?lang=eng&rn=2013040
  10. Dallara

    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    Here's the actual Transport Canada description page for the recall:

    http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur...t=&ls=0&sy=0&rn=2013040&cf=SearchResult&pg=-1


    Here's a couple of other pages from there that some may find interesting:

    http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur...2341&md=R1200GS&fy=2013&ty=2013&ft=&ls=0&sy=0

    http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur...2341&md=R1200GS&fy=2008&ty=2012&ft=&ls=0&sy=0

    I'll still bet this recall is for the new "Water Boxer".

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  11. cug

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    Yeah, I guess I know what you mean. Best is to read the original for yourself:

    http://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/tc/2013/22751r-eng.php

    And not some online editor's guess work around it. This for example is a 2013 air/oil cooled model:

    http://www.aspowersports.com/2013-B...=WB1046005DZX53464&unitType=1787&unitBrand=48

    So, it's all guess work. And my guess is, it's the old model.
  12. Dallara

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    Might want to, once again, read *carefully* the info at that second link you provided... You know, this one:

    http://www.aspowersports.com/2013-B...=WB1046005DZX53464&unitType=1787&unitBrand=48


    I really like the part on that page where it says the following:

    The picture may be of an older model, but the text description is pure new 2013 "Vasser Boxer"...

    And so is the price. :lol3

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  13. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    The LT I owned did wet its clutch early on, otherwise it was pretty reliable. The RT I owned was solid as a rock, the GSA did give me trouble but that was caused by ignorant wrenches at the dealership. But being a bit of a bike whore and always looking for something different I bought a Griso back in the spring and was so impressed by the bike and especially the motor that I sold the GSA and ordered a Stevlio NTX. I'm liking this thing a great deal.
  14. cug

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    Whoops. Missed that part - they messed up the whole technical details and description part which is for the new model, but the actual offered model is a 2013 Triple Black - there is no Triple Black of the new model.
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    Old Git Ray Now retired...YeeHaa

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    TBH I do not actually know, but here's what I think:

    Although I am not currently in a position to look at the bike, as I read the instructions, there are only 5 connections.
    1 to the throttle position sensor. A tap in to the white wire.
    2 to the injectors and
    2 to the O2 sensors.

    From this I can only assume that the timing is not altered in any way. IMHO there would need to be an ECU male/female plug to do this (as there is on the Harley Davidson version of the PCV).
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    they about 25k here
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    I guy I work with rides one of those.....the thing is still fast and not horrible in the corners....
  18. WARRIORPRINCEJJ

    WARRIORPRINCEJJ Not in the clique...

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    I'll be damned. I'm surprised to hear that.

    The drumming, that I feel, definitely feels like a timing issue. And, it appears that, while they didn't get rid of it, they did sort it, a little.


    I stared at those graphs, for a long time, yesterday. And, I can tell you that the second speaks volumes (to me).

    It appears that the days of perfectionists, like Soichiro Honda and Hirotake Arai, are long gone. I can't imagine any Japanese manufacturer, from those days, allowing a motorcycle to leave the production facility with a torque curve like that: shameful. The engineers of yore woulda' thrown themselves on a sword, before allowing something like that.

    It appears that, in a global market, we have even managed to Amercanize the Japanese; "Just get the product out, and let the aftermarket get it sorted."

    I know they have to do quite a bit of fiddling, to meet emissions standards. However, because I have spent long hours, fiddling with different bikes on the dyno and at the track, I can't help but think there is so much more buried underneath the engine cases of the ST. And, I'm not talking about horsepower and torque numbers. I'm talking about perfection: the whole package. (*cue the "define perfection" asshats)

    I love my ST. For me, with the exception of the weight and fueling, it is the perfect bike. I can't do much about weight. However, I am gonna' try to become a student of the fueling, and see if I can't strike gold.


    Thanks for the response...


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  19. ballheadknuckle

    ballheadknuckle Been here awhile

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    What about your brake line clip, focus on whats available :D

    Oh and which brand of oil is best to prevent hard starting issues?
  20. TH

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    How about the spokes that get all grimey looking? Or that the bike doesn't wash itself? Those are terrible flaws in the S10.

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