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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.
She may be a bit frigid but the cold gives me a valid excuse for having a little icicle.
You are a sick puppy.
It's the black ice that concerns me, not the snow. Puts you on your ass in a flash. :eek1
That would make any KLR owner proud! Good job, now I need to find a beat up ol' shovel to do my mine.
$1500 budget, first mods/farkles?
Some may disagree, I'd do the reflash for a perfect running motor.
The rest is all personal depending on use.
More info - How do you ride? Dirt Vs pavement? What did you ride before this? Day rides or multi-day or just long days?
What, if anything, are you moving over from your previous bike to the Super Ten?
Depending on these and other facets of your riding style, the forum might be able to offer up better suggestions.
You can go over $1500 pretty much instantly on hard panniers, though there are less expensive options too, and if you're more of an off pavement guy, Giant Loop is a serious option for minimal, compact luggage that still does the job, but is only there when you need it.
Windscreen, (if the stocker doesn't work for you)
Protection items like skid plate/crashbars
Japanese/EU left switch housing to add 4-way flashers and flash to pass switch
Improved heel guards
*Better grips or Grip Puppies
*Heated grips (don't buy the Yamaha ones, they are fine, but 3x the cost of other options)
OEM side wind wings
I would suggest you wait until you car riding the bike some and see what bothers you on some of these things. The items I marked with an * are inexpensive, save the heated grips, which can be really nice in the cool/cold seasons and represent a good return on investment, imho.
You may or may not find you want bar risers or a custom seat. The seat can eat up a good chunk of the budget.
There may be things you can do yourself, depending on your skill level and available work space/tools. There are excellent mirror extenders on Ebay for $20, a smoking deal compared to what some of the well known vendors want for this simple item. Don't buy anything w/o looking around the net to see who offers similar items as the pricing ranges from obscene to buy it now!!
Try to deal with the things that make you squirm or bother you first, the rest will come later.
First $1500 in my bike went to side cases, bar risers, adjustable windscreen mount (bonus, I really needed the GPS mount) and a powered GPS mount.
Little things like the clutch switch short and seat leveling mod are cheap.
That makes the bike more functional regardless of street or dirt preference. Anything else really depends on what you want to do with YOUR bike. Look around the picture thread, it's a very versatile platform to start from.
Good advice to live with it as is to get a real feel for it.
Currently I ride a DR650 year round. I commute to work everyday regardless of weather. When not commuting or running errands, I can be found mostly riding dirt roads that are mostly soft sand in my area. I do alot of camping from the DR and am well set up to do so with Wolfman dry side bags and Twisted Throttle dry duffels. I can carry everything I need for 2+ weeks if not more. The reason for wanting/buying the S10 is I wanted the ability to take trips further from home in slightly more comfort. I will run forrest service type roads when I find them, but will leave the more serious off road work to the DR, at least until I'm comfortable with the bigger beast.
I think crash bars and a bash plate are musts but after that there are so many things out there...bark busters needed? Throttle locks? Clutch switch mod? That sort of thing...As far as bike protection, is Alt Rider the way to go? I think Rumbux is over kill for my needs.
Fist item...:eek1:eek1:eek1 Tenere kryptonyte.
Altrider stuff is nice. I really like their rack. I switched from an OEM plate to their
bash plate. It all bends. I have their crash bars as well. Tested them several times and they did
not fail. I use the $25 Visa Cruise kind of throttle lock.
They do look sweet...but the cost...WOW!
I hope someone does a knock-off.
I got a rumbux myself as when you figure in the price for crashbars and skid protection, it is actually pretty reasonable. Now if you want a bash plate that would probably survive armeggedon go with the RideOnAdv one. My friend has one, it is one solid unit.
Some of the other skidplates are decent, but many mount to the engine, not the frame. The RideOnAdv and Rumbux both mount to the frame.
I bought my S10 used, so I saved a few bucks on farkles.
I find the seat works for me. Ride and determine if it works.
But as Dirty Bike said, ride it to see how it fits you. If you are going to take it off road, I would get a skid plate, I don't like they way the oil filter is exposed. The clutch mod is basically free, and does make a big difference (IMO).
The factory handguards are quite functional and surprisingly tough. Throttle lock is something that's a standard add on for me, but I also don't use it for long periods, so go with a cheap VistaCruise unit. The two cable Yamaha one can be easily adapted to work and is cleaner looking than the universal version. The clutch switch mod is essentially free, so try it and see if it's something you like or not. I haven't bothered, but I'm not like Pluric who wanted the finest tuning possible or like some that feel the need for enough power in the lower gears to pull the front wheel off the ground more easily. The mod does eliminate the safety feature of the clutch switch, so the bike will start in gear, something to just be aware of. I find that the power level in stock configuration is just fine for me, and the restrictions probably help my modest skills off road to make the bike more rideable, instead of spinning the wheel when I don't want to. Heck, most of the time traction control will be doing that, regardless of the clutch switch mod, unless you turn it off.
AltRider makes some excellent stuff. The prime benefit of the Rumbux is that it's the only crashbar/skid plate design where the skid plate is not mounted to the sump. You can buy the lower only Rumbux bash frame w/skid plate that gives you some side protection and the second best sump protection out there, but that won't protect the radiator in a harder drop. (Ride On ADV makes the best sump protection, bar none.) FWIW, if you price the Altrider crash bars and skid plate, you will see that the Rumbux is a competitive alternative. Plus it gives you better lower protection.
Note that I am the US importer for Rumbux. I've got nothing against the AltRider stuff, and have some of their smaller pieces on my bike. I think they make one of the best side stand plates out there.
I wish the reflash would would make it run like they do at sea level. That would be sweet.
It was more a matter of getting rid of some hiccups and flat spots in the power delivery.
The ECU mod just smooths the fuel delivery out and makes it feel more refined.
Not something that has to be done, but really appreciated when you find how to simply
make something good....better.
Besides, who in their right mind would want to "pull the front wheel off the ground"?
I'm not dissing the ECU flash, more saying that I'm just not one of those that notices the things you do, so it didn't bother me. What did the re-flash cost you in the end, with shipping, etc?
I used AF-1 racing in Texas as per Dallara's appreciated recommendation. As I recall
just under $500.
I didn't take it as dissing at all. I could have easily lived with the stock bike and it's
fueling hiccups. Just decided not to when there was a simple fix available.
I didn't mind the OEM touring screen until I tried a large V Stream. It looks goofy as hell
for the height, but man it's sure dead air behind it. It's all a matter of what works for you,
not the next guy.
Oh Southern Boys have sumthin they know too, as 'splained here:
Yeah but Southern Utah boys have a little different spin on that....
"You can marry your fist cousin.
You can marry your second cousin.
You can marry your wifes sister and her cousin.
You can marry your aunt and her sister
You can marry....... all at the same time".
Utah joke. We have a large community of polygamists down South.
I thought that stuff only happened in Salt Lake?
My first farkle was rumbux so I could get off the pavement. Then jesse racks. Then boxes. The rest is small stuff I did as time went on