The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mr moto, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. Dallara

    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    I used Yamalube 20w/50 dino oil for the first 6,000 miles, changing at 200, 600, 1000, 3,000, and on to 6,000.

    At 6,000 miles i switched to 20w/50 Mobil 1 synthetic motorcycle-specific oil and have run that ever since, changing oil and filter every 3,000 to 5,000 miles.

    I now have 31,000 miles on my S-10 with no issues.

    Dallara



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  2. LostViking

    LostViking Long timer

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    Tomatocity,

    Thanks for the info.

    I must have been outside looking at it when you posted.

    Went back to the dealership an hour each way. Spoke to the service manager. He was decent, they are ordering the parts they screwed up. He was apologetic. My bitch was not that it was screwed up. But that no one bothered to tell me. I handed the tech a $20.00 tip and he never said a word. Found out today that it took two of them to get the bags on yesterday,

    One pushing down with all his might, the other locking the handle. I'm sure somebody got an ass chewing after I left, but you know what, they deserve it. I asked the tech, if this was his his bike, how comfortable would he be to let the guy adjust the valves. He just nodded.
  3. drj

    drj professional nutjob

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    great to know!
    one more thing no one ever mentioned to me @ yamaha or in the owners manual!:huh

    drj
  4. tomatocity

    tomatocity Retired and lovin' it

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    LV you are welcome. I purchased my OEM panniers after I purchased the Tenere and decided to install them myself. The panniers come with instructions that are good if you understand their terminology. About the only thing that can be installed incorrectly is the upper rails. I think the instruction showed the difference between the ends of the rail with the arms being different lengths.

    Good to hear the dealership is replacing the parts that were damaged.
  5. snakebitten

    snakebitten Small Town Hick

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    Dallara,

    Just for you. :)

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    By the way, I am pretty sure they bottomed out today. So I'm thinking I don't get to use that last part.

    After bashing rocks all day, I got the tell sign for final drive fluid escaping it's home. This was after a 6 hour non stop beating. No drips when bike is static. Escaping at the bottom of the non-gasket mating surface for the tube and pumpkin housing.

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    Bike was just amazing today. Yamaha was crazy to warranty a bike that got used like this. :)

    Was lonely at the top. (Climbed from the Silverton side. Did full loop clockwise. Magnificent)

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  6. mcperformance

    mcperformance Been here awhile

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    Hi Snakebitten,
    Good to see your putting the bike & suspension to the test.
    Scenery looks fantastic, Must have been a beautiful ride.
    Chappy

    Visit my website for exhaust and mufflers
    http://www.mcperformance.com.au


  7. avc8130

    avc8130 Long timer

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    Snake,

    That's about all she's written on the front fork travel. I have tried and tried and I have felt the end of the travel, but the zip tie always survives to live another day.

    On other bikes when you find the end of the travel the zip tie usually get's destroyed as the dust seal smashes it into the axle block.

    ac
  8. cosmic

    cosmic Been here awhile

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    Good one Snake... When she starts bleeding i know u had a hell lot of fun together. :D


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  9. RocketJohn

    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    Dallara, changed your oil that any times?
  10. Dallara

    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    Outstanding, Snake!!! :thumb

    Now you're cookin'... And now you're gettin' your money's worth out of those beautiful Ohlins-kitted forks! That's what I'm talkin' about!!! :lol3

    Looks like you gettin' to do some damn fine ridin', too, you lucky SOB!!! I'm jealous!!! :bow

    Can't wait to see more pics.

    Ride safe!

    Dallara



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  11. Dallara

    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    If you are asking me if I have changed my oil that *MANY* times, then the answer is is a resounding "Yes!" :nod

    Why do you ask? How often do you change yours? :brow

    For me every 3,000 to 5,000 miles is about right once the bike's past its initial break-in period. If you're talking about changing the oil 5 times in the first 6,000 miles... Well, most of the various bits of leftover machining debris from manufacturing gets circulated in the first few hundred miles, and that's when it can do the most damage to the engine, so flushing it out with three oil and filter changes in the first 1,000 miles is pretty cheap insurance and pretty much no unwanted metal particles are washing around inside the engine acting as grinding compound after three changes...

    I change twice again by 6,000 miles just to keep taking a good look at the drained oil and seeing what kind of metallic content I'm getting. Usually by 6,000 what's coming out is nice and clean with little or no metallic particles visible. Only way I know to check more carefully than that is with regular oil analysis, but I've found little use for that over the years on street engines.

    I run mineral/dino oil the first 6,000 miles more out of habit than anything else. Years ago I both experienced and saw several instances of break-in issues using synthetics right out of the crate so I began always doing break-in with mineral/dino oil and then switching to synthetic once I was fairly sure the rings were adequately seated - which I feel comfortable with around 6,000 miles.

    I guess I shouldn't worry as much these days given changes in manufacturing and metallurgy of current production pieces... After all, my CTS-V came right from the factory with Mobil 1 synthetic and after 4 years it still runs spectacularly and doesn't use a drop of oil. Maybe I'll run my next bike on synthetic right from the start, but even if I do I'll change it several times in the first few thousand miles.

    What do you do, RocketJohn?

    Dallara



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  12. RocketJohn

    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    I just follow Yamaha's recommendations.

    Thanks for your detailed explanations.
  13. snakebitten

    snakebitten Small Town Hick

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    Well the good news is after further review, it was NOT final drive fluid that escaped and splattered my tire and rim. Turns out the dealer in Colorado that mounted the Big Block the day before, slathered on some grease on the splines.

    Melted. Slung.

    The bad news is my body didn't recover sufficiently from my epic day yesterday. About 3 miles into a 4WD section, I was spent. Couldn't find that rhythm you have to have to dance on those kinds of tracks. Laid down to gather my wits. Looked up and saw this view:

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    Spent the rest of the day scenic touring. Nothing tougher than grade 1 or 2.
    Had a blast.

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    There are Teneres all over Colorado! It's crazy to drive through all the various towns and see Teneres everywhere.
  14. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    For my size and ability I've found the Tenere is most fun on grade 1 and 2. Anything harder and I'm just focusing on trying to keep the rubberside down.
  15. tremor38

    tremor38 Long timer

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    Yikes, what bone heads! My local Yammerhaha dealer has mostly youngsters working on the bikes, which makes me uneasy, but so far they've done OK. Had one hiccup when a bar end weight fell off after the heated grip installation, but that has been my only bitch so far.



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  16. japako

    japako Been here awhile

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    Snake, thanks for the pics man, and keep riding the trails. It looks like you are having a great time, and I wish I was there with my little one..

    Glad the rear oil problem turned out to be excess grease and not a show stopper.
    Have more fun...:lol3 If that is possible..
  17. Lucidor

    Lucidor Beasty Boy

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    Hi,

    I'm researching my next bike and the XT1200Z is on my (very) short list of bikes that I believe would fit my needs. I recently took a test drive at the dealer, and I loved everything about it, except for one thing - I experienced the ergonomics a bit strange. My knees were at a steep angle, and the foot pegs were further aft that I would have liked. The seat was in the low position, and I imagine that the comfort would be improved with the seat higher up, but does it really make that much of a difference? The test ride was about one hour, too short to form an opinion really. Maybe I was just imagining things.

    So what I guess I'm asking is for your opinion about the ergonomics compared to other bikes, and if you think I should bug the dealer one more time and ask for a test with the seat adjusted. In the best of worlds I would like a full week evaluation, but that is unfortunately not possible. One hour ride is the maximum. I plan to keep the bike for many years, and want to make a good decision.

    I'm currenly riding the granddad of your bikes, the XTZ750. I love it, but it's coming of age:

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  18. snakebitten

    snakebitten Small Town Hick

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    Lucidor.

    Not sure of your height, but those 2 seat positions are like night & day for me.
    I can't last 30 minutes at the low position, but can run 600 mile days at the high position.

    That 1 inch is a critical inch. Huge ergonomically.
  19. snakebitten

    snakebitten Small Town Hick

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    I wish you WERE here bud. There's some folks here I wish could hear some of your stories. The demographics around here are hilarious. Us old salty coots are the MAJORITY. We rule!

    Got the Harley's outnumbered everywhere. You won't see Teneres dominate the landscape often. It's a hoot.
  20. GSteve

    GSteve Long timer

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    Take a look at this site and see if it will help. http://cycle-ergo.com