My test drive in the FJ was an eye opening experience. We owned a 2003 4 Runner and I have to say it's the best vechicle I've ever owned. I would still have it if it wasn't for a texting teenage girl running a light broadsiding the wife & kids. Everyone walked away so it's all good. I just knew I wanted an FJ, until I drove it. I like the platform, but the ergonomics are so poor it's unbelievable. There is no way I can turn my 16 year old son loose in a vechicle you simply can not see out of. I would have lane change issues in the thing much less the wife and son. I drove the Jeep as an afterthought. I knew I would hate it...except it was good, very good. We are so used to bashing American cars that we don't give them a fair evaluation. My 05 Ram has been completely trouble free despite using it hard towing our 35' 5th wheel toybox up and down the Rocky Mtns.