Thinking of trading my 1190 for a Super Duke 1290

Discussion in 'Ridiculous streetbikes with 6 CPUs and too much HP' started by lentuk, May 21, 2014.

  1. LocuL

    LocuL Gnarly Infantry

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    You could try tune the 1190 a bit. Its almost the same as the RC8R engine(94%)...
    The cams, and valves should help create some of the wished topend power. And there can be done more for the intakes.
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  2. Bluesilver

    Bluesilver Been here awhile

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    Here they call it warranty recall, a general term not for a bike replacement but part replacements due to design flaws by the OEM.

    Direct from KTM;
    "There is an outstanding recall on the bike to have the side stand console fitted. Other than that, all other recalls have been carried out. Please see attached document of your service history on the bike." <?xml:namespace prefix = "o" ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

    Product update is an improvement on an existing part that works, like say the Dash, it does not cover defect parts or poorly engineered parts like breaking side and center stands...leaking side covers, faulty breathers....quality control will relate directly to the assembly of the bike and to date, mine has all been about poorly designed parts like the airbox design, great for Superbikes needing RAM intakes, but a problem on Adventure bikes when you combine RAM intake with dusty roads...so, in comes Uni-Filter with their prefilter system and now KTM with their "Powerpart Sox".

    http://www.superduke.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=22948

    1290 having similar engineering problems.

    From what I have learned so far on these high end KTM street bikes, KTM are the LEADERS in selling hype,their marketing department is BRILLIANT at their jobs so much so that many people are willing to accept substandard service from dealers and incomplete engineered bikes just to have the bike and KTM's own multiple global recalls speaks volumes, linked to this, in different countries the local KTM branches are doing their own "upgrades" and no one is following a set standard which is very bad business practice, KTM Austria should be in control globally.

    If I could do it again, I would NOT buy the 1190 or 1290 at launch, give it 2 years then KTM should have their engineering in order, right now I'm still loving my KTM300 and would not trade it for any other dirt bike.
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  3. pne

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    has anyone ridden the new 1290 and can compare it to the 1190? I found in the 1190 the engine sounded and felt pretty wheezy despite having lots of pull, it sounded like it didn't want to rev. But in the RC8R configuration it felt like a completely different motor, very light flywheel and fast revving, it pulled clean off 2k rpm with no effort. I'm hoping the 1290 will be similar, I love that torque.
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  4. Harold Waikiki

    Harold Waikiki oldfatdumbbrokeoutofshape

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    I really want one too. This one is not mine. I would have to keep my other bikes though. A real! Problem! HW.
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  5. markie_wales

    markie_wales Been here awhile

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    And N = W - 1, where W is the number of bikes that will make you wife leave you.

    Cheers

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  6. lentuk

    lentuk Adventurer

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    I did the trade on Friday, been out riding since.
    I cant really open it up but there is definitely more torque everywhere, it does seem to handle quite a bit better also but I only have a few hundred miles on the SDR to give a serious verdict.
    Overall this is the bike I wanted all along, I am not sorry or remorseful the 1190 is gone, the Adventures are great bikes if you are really going to use them for what they are intended.
    I am super happy that I have the SDR 1290.
    Long live the Beast!
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  7. 5 speed

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    Well to tell ya, I rode one of each back to back at my dealers demo day about 3 weeks ago. To be honest, I liked the SDs seating position better than the Adv. All it needs is Rox Risers and a small windshield. the 1190 I felt in comparison (rode the SD first) pegs too high led to a cramped position (even though the SDs were back from where I would have liked them). I didnt like where the bars were (felt too close). The heat coming off the pipes/ head was worse on the Adv then the SD. I live in FL and this a pretty much a deal breaker. My 950 is not like that. If I were to buy one I would buy the SD right now over the 1190. -Course I would have to figure out how to keep the 950 as well, otherwise not happening. :clap:freaky
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  8. 5 speed

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    Right now for me its two. a 950 and a 530. Had the 950 for 4 years and the 530 for 3. The acceptance is there and even though I drop a load on them and camping gear, riding accessories etc, I cant get over to 3. I try, believe me!
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  9. I JET

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    I have a 2013 1190 STD that I bought in July last year and currently have just over 25,000kms on the clock.

    I test road the 1290 2 months ago and fell in love. I had come from a sportsbike background so the insane 1290 power felt right at home. It was the brutal torque that impressed me the most. I felt the 1290 engine to be a little smoother than the 1190. Not quite as chuggy at low rpm's. And the way it looks. My god I love the look of this thing in black. When I got home I immediately advertised the 1190 but after 1 week I decided to take down the ad and keep the 1190. The thousands of dollars it was going to cost me was one factor but it was more that I bought the 1190 to get away from the sports bike sort of riding. Be more adventurous, see more places, do longer trips and get back out on the dirt as I had given up dirt bikes when I got into road bikes a few years back and was missing the off road stuff. I think I made the right choice and I think in a few years time I can see a 1290 sitting in my garage as a second bike.
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  10. lentuk

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    This was sort of my thinking to begin with.
    But I have a well farkled DR650 that I adventure with so the SDR was what I needed.
    Everything about the 1190 mechanically was fantastic, I just could not warm up to the look, beauty is in the eye of the beholder..
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  11. veetwo _tls

    veetwo _tls RENOVATIO:

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    mate of mine in glen rose , texas just traded off his 990SD & RC8 Akrapovic limited editions for the new 2014 KTM Superduke 1290. Quote from Doug - 189 hp and 400 pounds really is fun, I am grinning.

    & if going by all his bikes this thing is going to be modded to the max very soon for track use.
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  12. pne

    pne Long timer

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    that is exactly my attitude so why is KTM making these dam sexy bikes to tempt me back to riding like a hooligan. God that torque is addicting. :lol3
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  13. I JET

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    You can still do this on the 1190


    <IFRAME height=393 src="//player.vimeo.com/video/85596026" frameBorder=0 width=700 allowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen></IFRAME>KTM 1190 4th gear wheely from Techno Viking on Vimeo.
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  14. YamaLink

    YamaLink Been here awhile

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    I'm picking up a black 1290 tomorrow, but did a little searching online and this forum for the "1190 or 1290" posts. Wanted to make sure I had no regret....and because the mid-10 second 1/4 mile times of the 1190 had me thinking "wow, brutally fast for my mainly-pavement riding and it can carry a passenger and a few items much easier."

    But taking stock of where I ride and my needs still leans heavily toward the 1290 even though the fire-breathing 1190 with its wind protection and better passenger capabilities sure is tempting. And, no, I won't be buying N+1...
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  15. fifthcircle

    fifthcircle Beer Knurd

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    Both are great bikes, so pick the one that suits YOUR riding style better.

    I had an adventure bike, sold it for a Ducati Monster. Owned that for one year, and traded it in for a new adventure bike. Waste of money on the monster. NOT a waste of money on the 1190 :ricky
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  16. PS-RagE

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    Man, I had the 1190 broken in for all of 20 minutes before I landed a $350 speeding ticket (and he cut me a major break! :huh). The SD would cost me my license in no time. Gotta save that speed for the gravel! :evil
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