This is how to install a kick starter on a DRZ400S

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Mr. Cob, Jun 24, 2004.

  1. Mr. Cob

    Mr. Cob Howling "Mad", Adventurer

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    Howdy All,

    I recently installed the kick start kit on my DRZ400S, if your interested in how it's done, click on this link for complete photos and commentary. WARNING, the instructions that come with the kit DO NOT do a very good job of showing or explaining some of the finer points of this modification.

    http://mr-cob.smugmug.com/gallery/136763

    This is one of the best things I have done to my bike. :freaky
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  2. viverrid

    viverrid not dead yet

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    Interesting sentiment. I have it on my list of things I'd like for my DRZ-S, but feel little urgency. Yet there is another fellow out here who feels it is an almost useless mod. Adds weight for something that he claims isn't effective for hot starts anyway, and which you will just about never have to use anyway. Use a battery tender, and when that fails, bump start. That is what the other guy said, more or less.

    I can see both sides of it, maybe that's why I have not taken any action yet.

    I have heard from people that there is a spacer that gets re-installed, and it is not clear from the instructions that you are supposed to reinstall it, and if you don't then a piece of your case gets busted off internally when you start the bike. But I don't know this from personal experience, just hearsay.

    How often are you actually using this to start, and why?

    -Vincent
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  3. Mr. Cob

    Mr. Cob Howling "Mad", Adventurer

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    Howdy Viverrid,

    I always use my battery tender plus, still when using my bike in some very rough terrain, after dropping it too many times, and in a situation where it is impossible to bump start because any direction from where I am at is, "UP" the hill, the kicker will get me back to the truck.

    I have ridden the bike without the kicker for two years and have been damned lucky to have made it out of some of the places I ride. Hopefully, I will never have to use it, but I feel a lot better knowing it's there if it's needed.

    If I was worried about a few pounds of extra weight on the bike I wouldn't have added the oversize gas tank, skid plate, hand guards, etc. I am not a Moto-Cross star, I just ride the thing for fun not to go as fast as I can, if I survive the day it's a good ride for me even if I am the last rider in the pack.
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  4. Tracker

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    Howdy Cob,


    I had the "Kick only" DRZ400 and never felt the need for electric start as it started well with the kick cold or hot, plus the 20lb weight savings was a bonus.

    BTW how are you doing haven't seen you sence the eastern Wa ADV meet.\

    Cheers,
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  5. Ostrich

    Ostrich Jaded and Happy

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    :wave Hey Mr Cob,

    That is a really nice gallery you set up there. How you been man?
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  6. jdiaz

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    FWIW, my '00 DRZ400E was a leftover and the battery died on the second ride I took. Bump-starting that bike is a bitch. I had the kicker installed when I returned the bike for a warranty claim on the battery.

    As Tracker mentioned, the bike is a one-kick starter hot or cold. I usually use the kicker in cold weather to lessen the load on the battery, or anytime I want to make fun of my Yamaha buddies. And it sure is nice to have the button as well.

    Jon
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  7. HighwayChile

    HighwayChile greetings from Wa state

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    back up = good
    many times a bump start is impossible.
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  8. bpeterson

    bpeterson no other way to say it

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    Wow, I don't think I've ever seen such a wonderful set of instructions like those before! I wish every part/accessory /upgrade was illustrated like that! :thumb

    Thanks for the details Mr. C - it's on my list of things to add to the S.
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  9. Dualsport

    Dualsport Maker of Sweet Cheek

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    Suzuki says the kick start kit does not fit an S. I'm glad to hear it does work.

    I have a Re-Kluse clutch and can not bump start. A kicker for back-up would be great.

    Thanks
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  10. SIKLR250

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    Good for you! Real motorcycles have kick starters.
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  11. yater

    yater Long timer

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    ....from the guy on the klr250. I've never HAD to bump start my dr650 (or any of my electric start bikes over the past 10 years....but I've done it "for fun" plenty of times. I've never had a problem bump starting any bike
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  12. 6Speed4

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    does anyone know of a kicker kit for a DR650? cause those KTMs look dead sexy(and reliable) with em.
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  13. SIKLR250

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    It's not a matter of having a back up system for starting a bike. A motorcycle with an electric starter just seems so lame (unless one has a disability that makes it difficult to use a kick starter). What gets me are those Yamaha commercials that make it seem oh so difficult to kick start a motorcycle. Quite pathetic...
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  14. SIKLR250

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    Just my opinion of course and we all know that opinions are like assholes - everyone has one.
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  15. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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    I know I wish I had a kick starter on my DRZ last year when I killed a marginal battery on a single track in a valley between two hills. Tow rope (elastic ATV version) worked well for bumping on muddy roads where it sometimes took a while to get adequate traction. The electrical is not too powerful on this thing so now I do some careful battery management like some of the rest of you.
    [​IMG]
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  16. Mark 42

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    I know - old message thread...
    But, this morning I sat with my electric jacket liner turned on while
    waiting for a ferry. When I went to start the bike, no joy.

    I tried to bump start - maybe the prev owner upped the compression,
    but I couldn't get it on level pavement (tire skidded in 1st or 2nd gear).

    Pushed the bike up the dock to where it was uphill, then up the hill.
    Roll started the bike. The 6:40 ferry was gone & the next one was at 7:55
    (our gov't thinks there's something reasonable about a 1:15 gap in ferries
    during the peak commute times instead of the normal 25 to 35 minutes)

    If I can find a deal that will suit my tightwad dendencies the kickstarter
    will be my next mofification.
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  17. Mark 42

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    BTW, how much weight does the kickstarter add?
    (At least it's near the center of mass).
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  18. tcourdin

    tcourdin Resident Spooner

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    I sold my DRZ S recently and never got around to adding the kickstarter. It was needed IMO, and always wished it came with one from the factory. I rode alot alone, and here in AR some of the places were very secluded. You get in the bottom of a valley and have the starter or battery fail and you would be screwed.

    That kickstarter would be cheap insurance. The added weight complaints are rediculous. The DRZ isnt exactly lightweight by any means, adding a couple of pounds isnt going to be noticeable in any form!
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  19. Mark 42

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    It's also a safety item... I almost ran my son (Drew) over in our driveway
    once when I push started the DRZ in the downhill driveway and when the
    bike fired it threw me back on the seat so that I had the throttle turned
    for about 1/2 second.

    The old OEM part number has been superceded by a new one: 26300-29812
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  20. Mark 42

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    Bought one on eBay this morning ($180 + $10 S&H).

    While I have the clutch cover off and clutch out, what else should
    I do? Are there any left hand threads on this side of the engine?
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