This picture got me thinking, Front wheel drive Hack

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by Ricardo Kuhn, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    That is just Silly:smile6

    The steering most be very heavy and the "Self-centering" effect of the fork rake for sure get all mess up, I don't know is just a very clumsy way to do it, with all this sliding half shafts and other shit the drag most take a big percentage of the engine power .

    If you need front wheel drive must be a better way to do it and I'm pretty sure if somebody know how is you mister Richard.
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  2. DirtyDR

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    twintwin Been here awhile

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  4. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    Unfortunately it's not possible to purchase this system. I tried to get one to experiment with.
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  5. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    Scott did you ever talk to Doug at Ohlins...??

    I know this was more of a Euro release, but he has nexus all over the company.

    I be your monster will love a little extra driven wheel.
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  6. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    I emailed them, and got this response:

    "Hello Scott. Thank you for your email. In 2006, Öhlins Sweden developed a 2WD system for motorcycles as an O.E.M. order for Yamaha France & Yamaha Australia. A small production run was done to satisfy this order. There was never an aftermarket “kit” developed, sorry. Thank you, Jerry"

    I'm not sure if the Öhlins system would be a good thing or not for my setup. 1WD has worked far better than I would have expected, especially when I got a big tire on the rear. The only place I might want 2WD is in super soft sand dune mountains. Even there I'm not sure if it would help. I was considering installing it on the side wheel, then testing it in some monster dunes down in Mexico. But since I can't get the system, I'm looking into building a new rear swingarm, and installing an even wider rear tire, maybe 10 inches wide or so. The problem with 2WD for my sidecar is the weight and complication added to achieve it. I don't want to carry the weight and reliability penalty unless I absolutely have to.
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  7. DirtyDR

    DirtyDR Dana

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    You can buy the Christini system but they are expensive and unless you are doing Endurocross I don't really see the need. Then again I own a 2 wheel drive Ural and 2 Rokons.

    http://christini.com/purchase-contact.php
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  8. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    How about a center hub front end with a belt or chain powered half shaft. Sounds pretty straight forward but it would have it's challenges no doubt:evil
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  9. Richard-NL

    Richard-NL Sidecar Fan

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    Like a Corda, you mean. That has a belt to the front.

    I'm enjoying this thread. :poser (No pun intended)
    Keep it coming.....

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  10. DirtyDR

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    The Christini drive setup is basically an updated Rokon drive without the overide spring and the 2 piece driveshaft. I wonder about their claim of 1/10th horsepower but I have always liked their design.

    http://christini.com/awd-technology.php
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  11. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    Glad to spark some nice creative topic.

    How about If you guys want to take it even farder, How about a Industrial hydrolic "Power take of" (they work wonders on field equipment) or even better to go with the times a diesel generator and three independent "Hub motors" for each of the wheels, with out even then need for disc brakes since the motors can act as generators at the time of slowing down..??

    My self, coming from the bicycle side, Can not deal with all the Sprung and rotational mass altering the riding characteristics and the suspension performance so maybe something more complex (Yes Vernon, Complex) is require to keep all the shocks and fork happier.


    Anyway please keep the ideas and the pictures coming, this is a really great topic on a forum that is far more innovative than most.:raabia
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  12. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    That's what the Ohlins system was.
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  13. Ricardo Kuhn

    Ricardo Kuhn a.k.a. Mr Rico Suave

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    Yeah sure, my reference was to all the different versions available in the market place specially surplus and/or second hand, Sure it will take some developing time and expense but hey at least you can get it, not like the ohlins system.
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  14. Evel Knievel

    Evel Knievel Paredini, Antonio

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    In the ''Hillclimb-world'' there are more bikes with front-wheel drive. Like this:

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    Or this:

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    But if it can be made on a LL swingarm..?
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  15. Evel Knievel

    Evel Knievel Paredini, Antonio

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    If you take the ''hydraulic-idea'' to a higher level maybe you can use a single sided swing arm of a sportsbike:

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    This is only a simple minded draw but you could mount the upper sprocket to the swing-arm
    and even make some protection for it like a plate or something. The hydraulic tube can be
    repleaced for flexible steel ones?! Just shooting some idea's...
    But i think that it's gonna be a very heavy construction!

    Good luck with you're build! I follow this thread!
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  16. SamRus

    SamRus Been here awhile

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  17. prestonpaul

    prestonpaul What?

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    Doesn't he know he's voiding the warranty with that trailer? :lol3
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  18. gr8lite

    gr8lite Adventurer

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    Rokon actually had a sidecar option for their bikes. The hack wheel was not driven but still very very kewl ! My brother and I have had 1wd Rokons , its amazing where they will go , 2wd has got to be incredible!
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