Thoughts on best 2up !!!! for ADV

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Sound Farm, Dec 22, 2012.

  1. Dr E

    Dr E Chasing after theory

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    Ducking at this suggestion but... a 89 to 90 TA is a solid bike, easy to maintain with a bullet proof motor and a number of couples go 2 up on these as this is what my wife and I will do when I finish my build.
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  2. Pacific

    Pacific Left Coast Adventurer

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    I had a 2010 GS for a couple of years. Great touring bike. I used it some off road, but I was never hardcore. It was a stretch for me to justify the bike in the first place, and I couldn't afford to damage it by taking it the kinds of places I used to take my XR650. Thought I was done with touring, so I sold the GS and bought and Tiger 800XC so I could take more advantage of the trails and logging roads out my back door. Which I did. Then I had to go on a trip, and I just couldn't imagine driving 3000 miles in a ***king car, so I bought a couple of Jesse cases and we piled 450 pounds of gear and human cargo on the XC and made a 6k-mile road trip out of it. Bike was awesome. Naturally, it lacked the full-on passing grunt of a GS, but the power and handing were entirely acceptable. The seat is the worst I've ever been on, though.

    I have since traded the XC on a 1200 Explorer, which better suits my long distance and 2-up aspirations, but I would certainly endorse the XC as a passable tourer and an awesome solo bike.
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  3. davyjones

    davyjones Been here awhile

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    Pacific - How does your wife like the Big Tiger? I too am looking for a decent 2-up tour'ish bike.
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  4. Pacific

    Pacific Left Coast Adventurer

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    She loves it -- but she's only been on it for a 20-mile ride. I've been riding every chance I get, but she's a fair-weather pillion. She said to me, "I think you found the perfect bike for us!" Of course, she may just be trying to get me to stop buying new bikes.

    This one will take us across Canada and back next summer.
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  5. xaman

    xaman Been here awhile

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    My wife is 5'10" and about 160lbs, together we are 350 without gear.

    The Ulysses was easily the most comfortable for her (great stock seat). If Continental would have released their 17" TKC80 front tire earlier, I would still have it. Awesome road machine for 1 or 2up, and with those knobbies, it'll be comfortable on gravel.

    We also rented a Tiger 800 in North Carolina this fall. We only did two days, about 700 miles total. We were both comfortable, plenty of room, and plenty of power. We both loved it.


    My Scrambler does the occasional two up job for us currently, but if my bride ever decides she can go more often, I'll be looking hard at the Uly and the Tiger 800.

    Good luck!
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  6. Gundy

    Gundy Been here awhile

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    The BMWs all seem to have lower passenger pegs, even the 650, compared to the Triumphs I have owned/ridden. My S10 has been super comfy for my wife and I, though we haven't done anything more than gravel roads yet. If you are doing mostly offroad, the KLR and Sertao are worth looking at.
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  7. llamapacker

    llamapacker Mr. Conservative

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    I'm like 180lbs and my wife is ummm, uhhh, maybe 130lbs. We really like the Super Tenere, but she also liked the Multistrada 1200. I would not have taken the Multi12 up the Alpine Tunnel tho.

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  8. Animo

    Animo Been n00b awhile

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    This will definitely work for you:

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    :1drink
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  9. Pecha72

    Pecha72 Long timer

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    Two-up ADV


    Small budget: DL650 or XL700V

    Big budget: wide variety of alternatives
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  10. jules083

    jules083 Long timer

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    My girlfriend and I did a yamaha demo ride on a super tenure and we both loved it. I wouldn't want to do any offroading though, maybe some dirt and gravel roads at most. Others here surely go farther, but for me that's about it.

    What's your budget? Would a second bike be in order? If so you could probably do well to expand your search and have the best of both worlds. Pick your favorite color, there would be tons of options at that point.
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  11. Sound Farm

    Sound Farm Art x Science

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    that black super 10 is sic!!!!!
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  12. gplassm

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    I guess that every passenger is going to have a different opinion. My wife and I just went out looking for a new bike last weekend. we say on V-Stroms, both the 1000, and the 650 (both pretty comfortable for her, the top case would have to move back on the 1000), the new NC700X (this bike felt very small, overall, and she did not like it at all), a new Multistrada S (this one was only "OK" for her), a 2010 FJ1300 (we both like this one, even though it had no top case for her to lean on), and a 2012 KTM 990 SM-T (which was surprisingly comfortable for both of us). The dealerships did not have the new CB1100, an S10, or any of the 990 Adventures, and we have not visited a Triumph or a BMW dealership yet.
    Right now, our choice is between one of the DL's (it doesn't seem to matter which one, as each has their good points), and the SM-T. She is pushing me towards the SM-T, just because she knows I would have more fun on it alone. The price premium is around $3k (for the KTM, over a DL1000)
    The DL's are solid, if a bit boring. The SM-T can have weird issues, like fuel tanks that do not re-fit after being removed, and gauge clusters that fog up, but I enjoy being a bit more involved in my ownership. I am a bit nervous at the thought of owning a BMW, an Aprilia, or even a 'Guzzi.
    Right now, a new DL1000 Adventure can be had for around $9,200. That is *very* tempting. Only the NC700X can compete with it price-wise, and that was knocked out on the first round of "seat-testing".
    Decisions, decisions... We are enjoying the shopping, though. I am shopping for an enduro bike as well, so I wish that we had a Beta dealer nearby...
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  13. gplassm

    gplassm Been here awhile

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    Up until now, I had thought that the big DL1000 was pretty much the King of Comfort, in the Adventure segment, unless one was to spring $20k for a GS, but in the past year or so, there have been quite a few comfort contenders that have sprung up - the S10, the Caponord, and the Triumphs (Tiger and Adventure) to complicate the issue. Each seems to be better at *something* than the 'Strom 1000, but the big DL is still a great value, and a great bike overall. I do not know what we will buy, but I have much the same intentions as the OP, I want to be able to take my wife on some longer trips this year. My trusty old DR650 did well for shorter trips (say, under 2 hours), but was not well suited for slab travel at all.
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  14. Wreckchecker

    Wreckchecker Ungeneer to broked stuff.

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    We have a Super Tenere and my lady likes it a lot. Last night we went to the Progressive m/c show in DC to try a number of other bikes and her preferences in order were:

    2013 MultiStrada
    She really likes the Super Tenere but said the foam on the Strada and slightly higher seating would take it if pushed to decide. She's barely 5'2" and thin. Note that this is the new 'Strada and the seats have changed from previous years.

    Super Tenere & & R1200GS
    The GS and Tenere were a wash stock, but since it is so easy to put a spacer under the front of the Tenere seat and flatten it, the Tenere won out. She can not see past me on either, which was a feather for the Multi.

    FJR & R1200RT
    The FJR seat shape was slightly better for her.

    BMW K16

    Goldwing
    Basically she felt trapped in an overstuffed chair. She said it would make sense on a long interstate ride but not for our style.

    DL650 / DL1000
    We've had both. Tried the 2013 last night and still slotted in about here. Somewhere in this area of the scale were also the Honda 700 and Tiger 800s.

    Triumph 1200 Explorer
    This one was a surprise. She found the pillion would just have to be replaced, due to slope, hardness, and shape. She also felt it was the ugliest of the lot, which was a surprise, as we have a Tenere and just got off the GS.

    Cruisers
    There were a couple OK ones, but none she really liked.

    Sport bikes
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  15. gplassm

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    My wife had similar, but a bit shuffled findings when we sat on those same bikes last weekend. A few things that are influencing our decision are - the Multi and the GS are $20k. No getting around that. The others are significantly less expensive. The Multi, with all of its electronic wizardry, does not bolster my confidence. I can not help but to think what items will not be working 4 or 5 years from now. The Beemer, well, posts of ridiculously high service costs have me a bit scared to commit to one - of *any* size.
    I am surprised to hear that your Lady slotted the new Honda 700 in with the DL's. For my wife, the NC700X was clearly the worst of the bunch. the passenger seat is tiny, and the requirement for it to be hinged for fuel cap access may hinder aftermarket support. To me, the whole bike felt tiny, but I would definitely consider it if I was looking for a low budget, solo bike.
    We have not tried any of the Triumph's yet, but having owned on in the past, and having experienced enough "Triumph problems", I am a bit gun shy.
    A big DL can be had, new, for well under $10k, with slightly used, well sorted ones easily found for much less. My *only* concern at this time is that it will not be *fun* enough, when riding solo. Whatever bike I get must be comfy 2-up, and yet still wheelie and slide when solo. I have not been able to discern if the big 'Strom will do this.
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  16. Pecha72

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    My wife said after a test ride, that NC700X pillion ergonomics are virtually nonexistent compared to a DL of any size or model year.
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  17. gplassm

    gplassm Been here awhile

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    Good to know! Thanks, Pecha!
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  18. victor441

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    a Tiger 955i is a good bet IF you have long legs, best two up bike I have ever owned but mine came w/ a Corbin seat, don't know if this would be the case with the stock seat...clean late model (2005-2006) examples go for $4-5 K.
    And a LOT of fun solo too, plenty of power, good handling, and a wonderful howl from the triple at high revs....
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  19. everetto

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    Have to agree with those mentioning the Super Tenere; roomy, comfortable, plenty of torque, lots of suspension adjustability, it has to be at the top of the list.

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  20. TuonoBiker

    TuonoBiker Been here awhile

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    I find it interesting that many people do shy away from the "beemer electronics". My thoughts are that there are no more nor any less electronics on a BMW that will let you stranded. Nor are they any more prone to failure...

    If you are going to shy away from any bike due to electronics, I think you are letting yourself be thrown off by the Internet's lack of common sense. :) That being said, sure, fancy things like electric suspension, etc are potential failure points. But all modern bikes have an ECU with electronic ignition and myriads of other engine controls and sensors that I won't pretend to be fully knowledgable about.

    Buy the bike that fits you and your passenger the best and just ride the wheels off!!!



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