Three guys three KTM's and 7 days of WA,Idaho & Montana

Discussion in 'Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.' started by KTMarty, Aug 25, 2008.

  1. KTMarty

    KTMarty Been here awhile

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    Three of us Tom, Mike and myself Marty took a week to explore WA, Oregon, Idaho and Montana Aug 9-16. Tom rode the Black 950 and Mike and myself on the faster Orange 950's.

    Tom and I trailed our bikes to Spokane WA to met with Mike at his dad's place Friday evening. Mike came up from Vancouver WA in his truck. We camped out in his dad's back yard Friday night and Saturday we were ready to explore mainly Idaho for 7 days.

    Not going to go into a lot of detail on the ride just want to share my pics of the ride . Look for Mikes"s (mrudy) ride report on this fourm.

    Day 1 - Saturday morning were up early and ready to go. Plan was to head south via WA back roads to Hells Canyon.

    From Left Mike, Tom & Marty
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    Both Red bikes started up but the black on had other ideas. I just made some jumper cables for this trip and had to pull them out. With a quick jump we were ready to ride. Here is Tom putting his bike back together
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    Here is our first day route
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    Pic of WA/Idaho State Line Road
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    Here is a movie pic of Tom

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    Head up to Mary Minerva McCroskey Mem State Park




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    Had lunch over looking the valley in the park
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    Before we got into Lexiton we took the Old Spiral Hwy. About 7 miles of twisty. Here is a panaram shot of the area
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    Mike found this dead animail on the road and thought it was cool to use as a seat cover. Actually its an old elk skin he had laying aorund the house and made good use of it. It got a Lots of looks.
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    Here is Mike on top on Spiral Hwy
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    Setting up camp at LewistonState park for the first night.
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    First day we rode 166mi 18mph average in 9hrs 11 min.

    I attached the gpx track of our first day.

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  2. tvbh40a

    tvbh40a PSUViking

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    When did KTM start making RED 950's. Black, yes, Silver, yes and Orange of course. BUT not red one's.:nono :nono :nono :nono

    That being said and soon to be edited I am assuming, continue with the nice ride report. Good Pics so far too.:lol3 :lol3
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  3. KTMarty

    KTMarty Been here awhile

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    Just checking and seeing if you are awake.
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  4. KTMarty

    KTMarty Been here awhile

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    Sure they make Red ones. When your camera gets to excited in taking pics of KTM.:D
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  5. mrudy

    mrudy "Let's Ride"

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    It was a great trip, filled with breathtaking scenery, wild animals, 47 nice people and only 1 b*tch of a USFS Ranger. Combined with the dangers of the wilderness, the adventures of forging our own trail when the road is no more, bears, broken-scratched and bent bikes.

    Stay tuned for more....

    Meanwhile, more pics from day 1:

    Tom and Marty's KTMs must be gay because they are already touching. I won't reveal which one plays the sheep.

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    McCroskey State Park was pretty nice. Would like to checkout the OHV trails sometime.
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    The Old Spiral Highway leading into Lewiston, ID is a must-do. Up or Down, they are both fun.

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    Like a Field General...Marty plans the next day's attack...
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    Tom... being Tom.
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  6. Heath

    Heath Coke-The choice of Angels

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    [hijack]I'm not a KTM historian but I saw a red 950 a couple of years ago up in Washington. The owner said it was a prototype, and that it was that color from the factory. Beautiful bike too...[/hijack]

    Great thread! Can't wait for the rest :evil
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  7. tvbh40a

    tvbh40a PSUViking

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    What you talkin about Willis! No red, that is Honda's color.:eek1

    Now on with the thread.
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  8. Beerslayer

    Beerslayer Journeyman Bike Knocker

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    I would like to see detail on how the fuel and water cans are mounted on the back. That looks like a nice setup.
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  9. DrStrangeride

    DrStrangeride Let them Eat Roost

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    Be careful. The locals up here are nuts....Tom looks like a California hitchhiker....


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  10. KTMarty

    KTMarty Been here awhile

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    Day 2 Sat - We packed up and left Lewiston State Park and headed South to Hells Canyon.

    Here is the route we took:

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    This pic is before Hells Canyon Along the Snake River
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    Kick stand? Don't need no bloody kickstand.
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    SAw this sign but no Bighorn Sheep
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    Only this type
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    As we got into the canyon more wild life appeared.
    Loads of Elk
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    And Turkeys
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    Before the entrance to Hell Canyon. There is a great section coming out of the canyon and climbing up to the top of the Hells Canyon
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    Finally made it
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    The Road ran top of the canyon for miles about 4k-5k in alt.
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    I ran into clutch problem from get go and had to bleed my clutch twice a day. More on this later
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    Stopped for lunch over looking the canyon.
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    Here is a panorama shot of the canyon.
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    After lunch this is what waited for us.
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    Only had two cattle gates to open and close along the route.
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    Its just get better.
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    Stopped at another look out
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    Here I am with a bad hair day which equals to a great ride.
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    The ride down NF 530 was a hoot.
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    Here is a shot looking across to Klenschimidt Grade which was on tomorrow agenda.
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    Opps- Tom did a Monty Python fall over. (Fell over with no forward motion)
    Pop off the directional but was able to put it back together. Left a nice scar though
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    Headed up Hwy 71 for 16 miles to find fuel. Made the mistake in not taking 86 south 3 miles to Pine for fuel. Did find a great eatery and a nice camp ground above the Brownlee Reservior though.
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    This camp ground did not have any good tent spots to park next to. No one was around so we rode in on the walking path to the end of the tent camping area and had the place to ourselves. Notice the walk way.
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    Ended the day with 179 miles at 15 mph ave in 11 hrs 51 min.
    Here is an attachment of the gpx route for Day 2

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  11. mrudy

    mrudy "Let's Ride"

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    The set up looks okay, but wait til Day 2's report and you'll see what happens. Made some critical errors in the mounting of said jugs.

    In the meantime, here's the install photos

    Blackdog CW tail rack

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    Filled both cells with water for the initial tryout. Had heard that Kolpins leak like a sum bitch.

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    Anyone have a calculator handy? Any physics freaks in the house? How much force is being exerted on the tail rack with the mounting system I have, the Kolpin brackets weight about 5 lbs each, plus 1.4 gals of water/petrol in each cell at a height of, let's say, 12 inches?

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  12. mrudy

    mrudy "Let's Ride"

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    Well, looks like Marty posted day 2. So here's my take.

    Night 1 was spent at Hells Gate State Park between Lewiston and Asotin, by the way.

    I'm running with the Kolpin fuel/water cells as I mentioned earlier, but Marty and Tom are using Touratech 2liter jugs mounted to their Gobi's. I don't know if we've got any pictures of their set up, but it was rather distressing watching them try to fill these buggers with petrol using a high flow station nozzle and a funnel. Petrol was everywhere. Not to mention the TT jugs bulge a bit and when they went to put them into the brackets, they oozed fuel. Sum bitch.

    Crossing into Oregon--say, Marty, you forgot to mention Oregon in the title.
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    After leaving the canyon and getting up onto the ridge, it was beautiful, high altitude prairie land with trees. Right out of a scene in the history books.

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    After lunch at Buckhorn Overlook (which was mindblowing), we got on a really cool road (the one with the barbed wire gates we had to open/close). And I got railing really good, lofting the front wheel over small rises in the road, and doing some jumps on the dry mud puddles. Wahoo fun!

    Uh oh! something doesn't look right.
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    Too much stress.
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    Bent her pretty good. I want to stress that I don't fault the BlackDog CW tail rack one bit. The tailrack is a good piece of hardware and for its intended usage, can do some amazing things. BUT, loading up 26+ pounds of deadweight at a height of about 12 inches on the very tippy end of this thing, about 6 inches from the nearest mounting bolts, is just too much to ask. In my set up, I should have added some strengthening bar stock or angle iron to stiffen the rack. But, I'm just lazy that way.

    No worries, we just straightened it out the best we could, add some straps, and Tom gives it a go on the 950 riding backwards, so all is good.

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    Mighty town of Imnaha. Great folks inside. Be sure to stop in and say howdy, although we hear the owners want to sell the place and retire. Hope the new owners will be as welcoming to ADV riders as they were.

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    Inmate alert!!! We were at Fish Weir and in rolls a Beemer coming back from a BMOW Rally. Yeah, you just keep your distance from these purdy KTMs...
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    Camped at Woodhead Park operated by Idaho Power.
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  13. Beelzabob

    Beelzabob Meep Meep

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    Nice Ride there gents. Might just have to do that one myself.

    But with half the load! Right Mudd/Link? :D


    Keep em' coming..... :lurk


    Beelzabob & Chuck
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  14. KTMarty

    KTMarty Been here awhile

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    Headed out of Woodhead Park CG and made our way up .HWY 71 to Klenschimidt Grade
    Here is the route we took
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    Coming down the back side of Klenschimidt Grade to Bear
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    Taking a break at a site of the Old Mail Cabin
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    The road down to Lost Valley Reservoir was fast and furious.
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    Lost Valley Reservoir
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    We had lunch and gassed up in McCall and headed out past Lower Payette Lake to some great scenery
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    Followed Lick Creek for a ways
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    Continued to Yellow Pine
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    Here is the General Store in Yellow Pine
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    Main street of Yellow Pine
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    Continued on to Elk Summit
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    More great scenery heading down the summit.
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    We were about 20+ miles from Warren still and came to a section of the road that was washed out but passable. I was trying to save My clutch which was almost gone and was trying not to stopped and clipped the tree where Mike is sitting and knock my case off.
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    The next section I was not as lucky and did not see a log to the left and this was the effect. It not much fun trying to navigate through tight areas without a clutch. This time I broke the lock off my Gobi and had to use Tom tie downs he brought for just this situation. Leave it to Tom to have most everything.
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    This pic shows the log to the left which I hit.
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    More great scenery
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    We ended at Shiefer Campground. No one else was there.
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    We needed to change our planes since my clutch was giving me grief and instead of heading to elk City we decided to head to Orofino to a KTM shop to get my bike fixed. The Piston Clutch was leaking pretty bad and we called earlier and found they had a PISTON CLUTCH kit for my bike and would hold it until we got there.
    Ended the day with 201 miles 18mph aver in 11hrs 05 min.
    Attached is day 3 route.

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  15. KTMarty

    KTMarty Been here awhile

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    Day 4 Tues
    Packed up and headed towards Riggins. I would bleed my clutch every evening and at lunch and in the mean time would not stop or if I dd would be on a downward hill side so I could coast and pop the bike into gear. Pretty much I would stay in 3 gear all the time and grunt around corners and slowly come to a stop and put it into neutral. I only used the clutch once in a while when needed but after about 5-10 pulls it would become useless. Enjoy.

    Here is the route we took.
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    There was a fire I belive last year that roared through the area.
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    Even with my clutch about to fail had to stop and take the following movie of Tom coming up the road. Click to see Movie

    Here is Mike on Top off Sawmill PT
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    Came into Warren. Did not stop to take many pic's with the clutch acting up.
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    Mike's camera bit the dust so I let him use mine until he got another one. Mike is a great photographer as you can see from the rest of today pics.

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    I did not stop to take a look at the bus but it was an camper at one point.
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    Heading down to Riggins Hot Springs the road just went straigt down the valley. Awesome fun.
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    And now the curvy downward ride
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    Ran out of fuel with 30 miles to go to Riggins. Dumped my Tourtech fuel jugs in.
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    Here is a movie clip Mike took of me starting my bike. This was the norm of the trip.

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    Next set of pic is before Salmon River.
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    Here is Tom going across Salmon River
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    Here is a movie of Marty going across the bridge

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    Stopped in Riggins for lunch fuel and spirits.
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    Instead of bombing up Hwy 95 to Orfino we decided to detour off of Slate Rd and camp in the hills for the night. Then make our way to the KTM shop first thing in the morning.
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    Slate Road had some nice scenary along the way.

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    Tom and Mike were telling me that a squirrel in my bike and I thought they were pulling my leg.

    Here is what happened when I started the bike. Squirrel?


    Nope a chipmunk.

    We took apart everything on the clutch handle to see were it was leaking and could not tell where. Put things back together and the clutch was feeling pretty good even after 10-20 squeezes. Still decided to head to the KTM in the morning to get the new clutch piston

    Ended the day with 143 miles 17mph ave in 8hrs 23 min.

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  16. KTMarty

    KTMarty Been here awhile

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    Day 5 Wed

    We packed up and headed towards Orofino to the KTM shop to get my clutch fix first thing in the morning.

    Here is a movie of us coming down out of Fish Creek into Grainsville

    Arrived in Orofino around 9:30 and headed to Hansons KTM shop. They were great in getting my bike repaired without waiting. Kudos for the service.
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    Clutch felt great - But after 10 miles it started to fade again and saw oil leaking out of the Clutch pistion again. At luch re bleed the clutch again.
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    Here is a movie shot of Tom along somewhere on the Musselshell road.

    Here we are at the start of the LOLO Trail. Can you say Dusty!!
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    Lolo Road through more burned out forest.
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    Here is a shot in my rear mirror showing the dust behind me.
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    Great Scenery on both sides of the trail
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    We had a run with a forest ranger that was having a bad hair day to say the least.
    This how it went. Tom was ahead of us. Mike and I came up to two forest service vehicle parks opposite direction talking so we came up behind them and stopped. They finally said there good bye and Mike started to follow the truck with me behind him. He was on her driver side but would they would not stop or pull over (can you say dust!!) I did not want to follow a truck down this road kicking up dust so I moved up and made sure my light was in her left mirror still no sign of pulling over so I gave a tot with my horn, That got her attention and she pulled over and gave me a very aggressive had wave motion to come next to her. I pulled up and stopped and said hello. She let loose on me with the following "YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN. There are fire a lot of forest vehicles helping to put out fires up here!" I said "No problem will keep an eye out for them". Both MIke and I proceded to pass and caught up to Tom jsut ahead. Told Tom what happen and he mention that he followed her for a while and she wouldn 't pull over either then say a opportunity and he passed her. That most of set her off. Thinking we were racing on the trail or something else. Anyway we deciced to get moving before she caught us again. We went just a little further and turned off into Rocky Ridge Lake Campground for a break.



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    After I took these shots she drove up and parked and proceeded to lecture us some more.

    Mike being the great diplomate did a great job in asking what we did wrong and if we did anything wrong what can we do to to set it right. She said we did nothing wrong but wanted us to be aware of other fire vehicle traffic. I mentioned we only been doing about 20mph averge (Which is below the speed limit of 25mph of forest service roads.) Mike went on how we rode over 1000 miles in Idaho came across cars, elk, deer, turkey, hickers ect and never had a complaint until we crossed paths ect ect. She finally got off our case and started to get defensive. All this time the other ranger was on the other side of camp having a cig. All I could think he heard this before and did not want to have any part of it. Things were settled and she was happy that we were not a bunch of crotch rockect racers.

    She told us we should go and see Wetas Butte which is 4 miles off the Lolo trail but was worth the ride. Here is the fire tower at the lookout.
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    with Mike below.

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    Took a movie shot as I walked around the platform

    As we were leaving we met miss ranger and had a nice wave as we passed each other this time.

    Here is Mike doing his best imatiation of a crotch racket racer.

    Took a little break at the intercection of Lolo trail and Gravey Creek RD.
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    Back at Orofino we wanted to buy a 1/2 dozen eggs for tomorrows breakfast but the clerk at the store said they only sold them by the dozen. So Tom told her that's OK we will just throw six of them at cars. Anyway Tom put six of the eggs in his egg proof plastic cantainer and Mike cut the egg cardboard carton in half and doubled wraped the the eggs in it. This is the results of Toms eggs
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    Mike eggs were intact.

    It was around 6:00 and we wanted to get to Powell Campground so we decided to take the Gravey Creek Rd down to Hwy 12 and then into Powell Instead of finishing up the Lolo trail
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    It was nice to get a hot shower and clean up after that dusty ride.
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    Oh here is how I held my Gobi case on after I broke the latch from the fall two days ago.
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    What is so neat about Idaho campground is this.

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    Did you guess - Fire wood already stacked up.

    Once again I was bleeding my clutch for the next day adventure UGG!!

    Ended the day with 217 miles 17 mph in 12 hr 51 min. See we couldn't off been doing crotch rocket speeds with this type of average.

    Here is todays gps route

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  17. wachs

    wachs just passin' through

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    Pretty cool you guys. Really need to get myself a twin!
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  18. ronsolo

    ronsolo Hooplehead

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    Damn guys, very nice. You do those KTMs proud. Great bikes and trip.

    Also thanks for posting your gpx files. That's very cool.
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  19. lsvens

    lsvens Could I re-weld that?

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    Fantastic post gents. Hi to MRudy from Daren and Les, the UK blokes on the KLR's in Oregon...Love your adventure posts and your great pictures Mike. Keep in touch, and thanks for all you gents posting this adventure thread. It inspires us Brits to do more with less.
    Mike, have some round alum bar welded to the underside of the rack to brace the bending area. Go with a latice/triangle pattern to disperse the load evenly. Gusset your verticle brackets also to resist the Force Luke. Try to have the bending forces directed toward the bolt/mounting area and you may be better off. Half fill the containers or mount then lower perhaps...good idea though Mike. Extra gas and water is always good when heading off the beaten tracks...and why be on the well beaten tracks one wonders?

    Cheers,
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  20. KTMarty

    KTMarty Been here awhile

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    Extra water and fuel was a most on this ride. I brought along this water jug which fit nicely in my Gobi case.
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    It does take up space but was well used. At a one campsite there was no drinking water available.

    Here is my extra fuel setup.

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    Tom and I thought this was the best place to put these jugs, but after the crash I did I'm lucky it did not poke a hole in the container, did dent it though. Going to remount them on the backside. Also they get in the way of your leg/foot.

    These container or a pain to fill with a gas station hose. Even with a funnel it was a very slow process. Plus you need to leave plenty of room for expansion or gas will leak out.
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