Tiger 800 problems; for reference only please

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by Rob Dirt, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. cug

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    "Issues" I had:

    1) Handlebar being off with the right side further forward than the left side. Mentioned it at the run-in service and these idiots told me "everything is fine, couldn't find anything". After about a month not riding at all due to limited time I did a quick go over the bike last weekend and found what was wrong with it: the front fork clamps were so loose I could remove one of the bolts with my bare fingers (note that this was about 20 miles after they checked in the shop). Aligned everything, torqued the bolts properly and everything is in line.

    So, the shop was too dumb to check the front fork clamp bolts even when I pointed out the offset handlebars. Man, how I trust them how well they did the rest of the service. Going to go over the whole bike myself over the next couple of days. Oh, and I'm pretty certain it was them, too, that got the tear in my gel seat. Will call them tomorrow.

    2) Bar vibration was pretty annoying until I added R&G bar end weights. No difference before and after the run-in service. I'll probably also change the oil again soon, just to make sure these guys didn't just rip me off and didn't do anything good to the bike.

    Both not real issues but the loose bolts seems to be a repeating pattern on the Tiger 800. I have read about a few cases already where various bolts were found to be loose. I'm planning to go over the bike in all critical places and check all bolts whether they are in torque spec.
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  2. mickd

    mickd crash test dummie

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    loose bolts are not just with this bike,every new bike will at some time have a loose bolt of some kind,thats why you should always check your bike from time to time,
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  3. cug

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    I'm aware of this. The thing is that I have read an uncommon high number of people complaining about this. I have had a few bikes and never any trouble with loose bolts, certainly not after just 500 miles, and I have read at least 6 or 7 different cases of loose bolts - without searching for them.
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  4. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    I don't think anyone is claiming that.

    Mine's had some issues. Specifically, the front end bounce and the pull to the right, both of which were corrected by adjusting spokes (XC model, obviously.)

    The "heat issue", for me, is not an issue at all. I own and have owned bikes that put out much more heat on the rider.

    I've not had any stalling issues, nor non-starting or non-idling issues.

    Compared to some of my other machines, the XC has been one of the most trouble-free bikes I've ever had.
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  5. CCBonnie

    CCBonnie n00b

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    I have a 2012 roadie with over 9000 miles and I have a front end bounce around 45mph,sometimes I think its the road I am on. I also have and the gear indicator tell me I am in 3rd gear when I was in 2nd only about half a dozen times,now trip meter 1 will not read the miles I am putting on the bike,so I am taking it to the dealer this Friday to see what they say,other then that I love this bike.:D
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  6. ButtonPushingMonkey

    ButtonPushingMonkey Adventurer

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    Rob,

    It looks of the sensors won't hit USA until 5/28/2012. Hope that helps with the waiting game. I was happy to at least get a date.

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  7. Rob Dirt

    Rob Dirt More or less in line

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    I was told 6-15-12. This is the third part # for the gear indicator sensor. Maybe they got it right this time.

    I'd like to add that all of my problems have been parts made by others. It's hard to get mad at Triumph because a part made in Japan failed. I really do love my XC. I just want it to work right & stay working.
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  8. elan

    elan Been here awhile

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    FYI, Was reading about this and decided to go over all the 8mm case bolts on both sides. Many were barely finger tight - no leaks though. I went ever them all with a 1/4" ratchet, snugging them all up a bit. I have a 2012 roadie I bought second hand with 3400 miles on it.
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  9. motomuppet

    motomuppet Been here awhile

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    This seems to be a common theme on the triple engines...my old 1050 tiger had several case bolts come loose a couple times. After a few tweaks to tighten them up they seemed to stay tight :hmmmmm

    gonna check over my new 800xc tonight I think...
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  10. fxrjon

    fxrjon Adventurer

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    I've got a little north of 7,500 miles on mine so far, with four issues (and only three are material)

    1. Its a nail magnet. I've had 4 read flats in 6,000 miles.

    2. It's started ticking at about 5k or so. The engine makes a bit of noise like tappets. I talked to the dealer and got the same answer that some guys on the tiger forum got... "some of them do that...dont worry about it"

    3. It leaks a bit. There is some oil seepage from the gaskets on the right side of the motor. As a result, its eaten about a quart of oil in 7k miles.

    4. The steering head bearing came loose from the factory

    In my mind all of those are niggles. The bike has really performed quite well for me in the first (almost) year of ownership.
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  11. spewler

    spewler Not (w)reckless

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    At ~15,000 miles the chain derailed and poked a hole in the crankcase...repaired it with JBWeld and it has held for 10,000+ miles. Unfortunately, nobody makes a sprocket cover that would protect the case. Second problem I had was a rock sheared the two screws holding the sidestand switch to the kickstand plate, leaving the switch dangling by its wiring. I backed the broken screws out of the plate and replaced them...seems like the bash plate should extend a little to the left to protect that switch. Fortunately, the switch isn't that critical...
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  12. ButtonPushingMonkey

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    Date got pushed again. This time to the 4th of June. They did say they would hook me up with some accessories though
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  13. elan

    elan Been here awhile

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    Any idea how that happened?
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  14. spewler

    spewler Not (w)reckless

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    elan,

    I was attempting to climb a very rocky uphill and I think a rock somehow inserted itself between the rear chain guide and the chain...that's just supposition on my part, but it's the only theory I can come up with.
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  15. elan

    elan Been here awhile

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    Ahhh... yeah, never experienced that on any of my bikes yet *knock on wood*.

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  16. Middleweightboxer

    Middleweightboxer Middleweightboxer

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    Thanks for posting these comments. I noticed significantly more front tire bouncing today. Because of your post I checked my spokes and they were significantly relaxed. So I'll put the wheel on the truing stand tomorrow and see if my problem will be corrected.
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  17. TAMPAJIM

    TAMPAJIM Been here awhile

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    Had mine for one year and 13,000 miles.

    Had a problem with the computer read out after 6,000 miles. It told me I was almost empty after 100 miles but only took 2.5 US gallons on fill up. Did that twice in a row then cleared up. Attributed it to the reflash at 6k miles.

    There is a heat problem if you live in a warm climate. Doesn't seem to bother some folks but enough have complained so it does exist. I fabricated some heat shields to deal with it, but Triumph needs to step up and fix it. Neither the 1050 or the Explorer have a heat problem and they look to be similar designs so it is fixable.
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  18. Kawidad

    Kawidad Long timer

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    Because of reading this, I started checking my case bolts and some other bolts on the bike and I've found a good percentage of them too loose for my tastes. On the left side of the engine, most of the bolts were barely snug and I found several crankcase bolts barely finger tight.

    So I guess the moral of the story is for new Triumph owners to check their bolts, because the dealer doesn't, even after paying the bux for their service that is supposed to check the bolts.......:krusty
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  19. elan

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    I had an issue one time so far where the bike wouldn't start. And it wasn't the immobilizer issue, as it would crank, but it wouldn't "catch" - as if the idle was set too low (me thinks stepper related). This was a case where I had stopped off for a few minutes on a hot day (90F+) and left shortly thereafter. I *think* tried 2 or 3 times to start to no avail. Can't remember if I cycled through the startup (key off, wait, key on, prime pump) once or twice before it actually started.

    I've found another thread somewhere else that made it sound like a hot start issue. It was rather upsetting being such a new bike, but I'll work through it :)

    I haven't had another issue since (knock on wood), but I can tell that startup is a little different when it's hot (as to be somewhat expected). Hard to explain, but it's like I'll start it, and the RPMs will drop under 1k (for a fraction of a second), but I'm assuming the stepper jumps in real quick to compensate.

    I bought the bike used, but the owner had the ecu map updated prior to the sale and I've verified that it's the latest via TuneECU.

    And no, heat doesn't bother me. I'm used to riding hot bikes. That catalytic converter doesn't help. And I'm not worried about chains flying off. I do think the loose bolts is a little annoying - nothing I'd go to the dealer for though. I hate dealing with dealers...
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  20. RichardU

    RichardU Let's Ride

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    Here is my list of problems after 3000~ miles.

    Steering head nut loose.
    I needed to tighten various engine bolts as I did on my Tiger 1050.
    I hit a rock and took out the side stand switch. Really bad location for that.
    Today I got a code: P0500 - Road speed sensor, circuit malfunction. I cleared it and will see if it comes back. (2012 - ABS)
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