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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Baja Dad, Aug 21, 2013.
Who makes hubs for the Tiger 800 XC
The stock Excel wheels take some major abuse, what are you trying to upgrade to? :eek1
I'd expand that question by asking if anyone makes a tubeless spoked wheel for the 800XC? Using tubes on the street kinda makes my skin crawl.
Care to explain the crawl...?
I don't think anyone else does.
What are you trying to do?
I just prefer tubeless for high speed riding. The thought of a blowout at 80 always makes me a bit uncomfortable. Its much more likely with a tube.
Woody's can lace your stock hub to a Sun rim (21") which has a safety bead and they will seal that up and that gets you tubeless. Standard sealing for rear wheel. Check the Woody's thread in vendors. I made a recent post.
I would like to go Lighter and Stronger.
Major ADV off road.
I am having a set of Tubeless Woody wheels built on the OEM hubs
18" rear and 21" front to test on in Baja in OCT
I didn't think Woody's would make a 21" tubeless... I asked via email and was told they didn't because they didn't like the rim they had to use for it.
You are correct!!
I asked them when I picked up my Super Tenere up stopped at Woody's wheels he will do the 18" not the 21"..
Any blow out a 80+ MPH sucks.
You know the saying, you only go as fast as you want to fall.
Like I said, check the Woody's thread in vendors. Last page. They'll do it.
Woody will do it with the Sun rim, because it has the safety bead. It also is a 2.15 wide rim vs the 2.50 rim on a 800xc.
I always felt the Triumph rim was purposely wide to compensate for the less than normal amount of trail on the bike. It would be interesting to know what handling difference it would make, if any.
I think it expands the contact patch a bit to compensate for the 21's skinny tire as well. At least that's what I read in a magazine somewhere.
Road performance is surprisingly good. But I too worry about a tube blow-out on the freeway. Routinely run at 80-85, even with a full load. Could be a OUCH!
How are the wheels coming along?
I don't get this worry. People have been riding tubed tires at high speeds in Europe and elsewhere for decades without any blowout problems. I don't see any real issue here.
For lightness or ease of puncture repair tubeless has a very real advantage.
It's been said a tube will blow out suddenly whereas a tubeless will just slowly go flat giving you time to scrub speed and get off the road. Has never happened to me though.
I'd have to say that it really depends. I have experienced two rapid deflations on tubeless rear tires, where pressure was lost in a matter of seconds.
I also have had a front tubeless go flat without warning. Was running 55-60, slowed to make the turn and it went flat. No warning.
Was thinking about an 18 inch rear wheel and a 270-300mm suspension tonight on my ride home..
Well, I had this at about 85mph.
Nothing really to write home about. Massive vibration, and that was that. Still rode at 20mph into town and the next day to find a shop.