Tiger 800xc: Questions after test ride

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by JadeRider, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. JadeRider

    JadeRider Been here awhile

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    I am going out for another test ride tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed. I am gearing up to take the plunge :sweeti
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  2. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    Dude you've been lurking on the Tiger threads for over a year. Just break down and sale the F800GS and get one. Its cool we'll let you in the "community". Tons of beemer refuges on our side of the fense.:rofl
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  3. itsatdm

    itsatdm Long timer

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    Dude I read a lot of the bike threads and post on others, so you are not special.

    Riding and wrenching for close to 50 years (70 next month). Ridden in all the western states. The 2 previous ADV bikes I own/ed prior the BMW were low volume bikes with no aftermarket. It is surprising what you can mix and match to build a better bike. But it does require a little searching on some of the forums.

    Good people here, but too much chest beating and not enough technical info anymore.

    I tell you why this one caused me to post. The OP is looking to spend some considerable coin on a used bike. What he described in his first post sounds like surging to me.

    The bikes are noted for their smoothness. This one sounds like it is not.
    You may not think it odd that some one sells a bike with 3,000 miles back to the dealer, but I do. Dealers pay wholesale and the owner must have taken a bath.

    There is a recall on some the earlier bikes on the mapping. They solve a fueling issue, though not exactly the same, but it could be.

    There may be a good explanation for all of it, but no one asked. Does not really matter how good other peoples bikes are, it is this one the OP is buying.

    I do the same in Parallel universe. You can tell him to just buy it, if you want. I think a fellow rider deserves more than that. If I decide to quit posting in the Triumph threads, it won't be because I dislike the bike.

    I hope it turns out well for him. It is a good bike. I like mine, but it is modded like most of the ones I have owned.
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  4. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    Dude you don't owe me an explanation I've read your posts and i'm familiar with you and just think you should come over. You know you want to. Folks are proud of there tigers for a reason.
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  5. JadeRider

    JadeRider Been here awhile

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    Hey brothers. I appreciate the advise from all. I know it is always well meaning. So here is what I have learned today. This is, of course, the dealer story. However, I must say that I have been visiting these guys for years, getting some service done, and test driving bikes. They always treat me with respect, and seem to be happy to just spend time.
    This unit was purchased by a guy for his son. It was supposed to be a bonding gesture. Sadly that did not happen, and bike is now under consignment. I will have a much more extensive test tomorrow. Will report on the result.
    I do truly appreciate the advise and words coming from all of you inmates.


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  6. burmbuster

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    2 Things, Jade.
    1) Damn whats wrong with that kid? A $13,000.00 bike for bonding? Must have been Sandusky's son.
    2) Why not just get a new one? Not trying to cast doubt on your deal but going back to your previous concern about break in. How old was this son? If he was a teenager then I might would pass given your previous concerns. I really wouldnt give it much thought if the original owner was an adult.
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  7. burmbuster

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    Thousands of ex-F800 owners agree!:rofl
    Seriously, though, when he's not wasting air over the F800 he does make some pretty good points.
    And last but not least......Our 800 is better than their 800!:lol3
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  8. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    Yeah smart guy riding the wrong 800:evil
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  9. Dirtmonkey8

    Dirtmonkey8 VA is for Riders

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    When I first got mine I thought the throttle was touchy, but I was coming from bikes with carbs. I think the tight engine during break in might have been a small part of it. I had to take all of the slack out of the throttle cables and then it got smoother for me (less delay if you roll past the closed position). I think it was mainly a fuel injection vs carb difference for me. I am not sure if after break in it got better, but I do not notice it anymore. The "connection" between the brain and the wrist was probably most of it. I would describe my initial impression after my first ride as being exactly like the OP's on the touchy and does not want to maintain speed easily issue... The bike does have a very responsive FI system and it will take some time for some to get used to it. I figured I'd post since no other owners can say they have had the same issue.
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  10. Gillus

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    +1 for F.I. bikes. I had a FE390, a WeeStrom and now a 1050 Tiger. They were all touchy and could get scary off road if you weren't careful and aware when giving it a bit of throttle or just hitting a bump. Touchy, snatchy, snappy whatever or however you feel it.

    Get a G2 Ergonomics throttle cam and problem solved. It reduces the amount of pull in the first 1/4 or 3/8 throttle action for an easier smoother ride. I could control the FE390, the Wee stopped acting like it was stalling when I hit a bump and the 1050 is not scary :eek1 any more, very compliant but just grab handful and hang on :evil. On the 1050 I could have taken a hacksaw and machined a ramp or taper for the cable the first 1/4 of the plastic throttle cam and acomplished the same thing. It is easy to do but they do not make them for all applications. Most all OE throttle cams are plastic.
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  11. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    So, what happened with jaderider? Tiger owner or not????


    The XC throttle is pretty touchy and there's a lot of power on tap so it takes some getting used to in order to comfortably maintain a steady speed. I still find myself looking at the speedo and adjusting all the time. It's not really something I noticed 'till some others pointed it out.

    All bikes have little character things you discover when you live with them for some time. The tiger has so few bad traits that it's an absolute joy to own. Every time we get on these things we marvel at what a great bike they are. I've heard guys say they're down on power and you have to rev them - all I can say is wow, you must be coming from a race-type liter bike. I haven't changed my riding technique much from break in. There's not a lot of reason to pass six grand unless you're really getting on it.

    Unless somebody just revved the piss out of one before it had 500-1000 miles on it, I don't think you can hurt them, and breakin is not that fussy. Just ride them normal and keep the revs down 'till they get some miles. I would not worry about a demo bike at all. On the converse side, if test riders were too timid and the thing never got revved out and speed varied, that can be as detrimental as anything in getting the rings to seat. But really, modern specs are much tighter and I doubt there's any issue with getting good ring seating. The main thing is to get the first oil change done early, or do it again if it got it's first at 600 miles or whatever the spec is (first was 600, right?)

    If it's a 2010 model that hasn't been remapped then yeah, the dealer will do that. I doubt it's surging, it just sounds like the touchy throttle characteristic of this bike.

    For the other owner with a tight cables, there's an adjuster right outside the grip, just slide the protective sleeve down and adjust the cable. I find loose is more annoying than tight.
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