Tiger Tales - Dialling in the 800XC for the dirt

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by Burren Rider, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. Adv Grifter

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    I will be interested to hear how the handling does once the rear is flat spotted from highway riding. I'd give it about 3000 miles. At that point you may find it doesn't do too well anywhere ... especially in Mud.

    But if need be I'd bet you could get over 4K miles out of that tire. But in mud, the front will load up in 50 yards and become a Mud Hoop ... zero control, no steering. The smooth rear will just spin. Back up and push!

    The beauty of real knobbies is their ability to shed mud. The faster you go the better this works. I would guess the Tiger's lower sub front fender may load up and jam. Same goes for the swingarm area.

    Certain types of mud are insidious ... and really hard to shed off your tires, even on a "real" dirt bike. Use caution out there guys! The TKC's aren't the best dirt tires in the world ... but are miles ahead of these German Heidenau 50/50 tires in true dirt. For a long, mostly road tour however, they would be in my top three. They LAST really well.
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  3. cold comfort

    cold comfort Been here awhile

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    Following this thread with interest (not sure how to "subscribe"). Obviously have added a real sump guard, crash bars as options, carriers for soft bags from Motorrad etc. Having drowned the Tiger in one of the many river crossings on a 2 day 2 up Adv ride would be interested in air intake mods. The current set up draws air from under the bike quickly sucking water in on deep crossings.Pulling the tank off and emptying the water out of the cylinders in the boonies is a right royal PIA and not possible with the ridiculous tool kit supplied (fortunately i had considerably more at my disposal). Maybe having the hole drawing from the side instead of from below?
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    At the top of the page, there's a tab saying "thread tools". Pick that and, then, "suscribe to this thread".
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  6. eakins

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    happens all the time. TL tires just have a better built lip in the rim sealing area. Many tires rated TT will even work as TL. All tires these days will hold air...it's about the lip seal design.

    i think most every (if not all) 150-17" tire is TL anyway as those tires started life (or came about later) supplying the TL R1100GS rear rims. from there it was capanords, stroms, etc. and later s10 and other new beasts running TL

    the concept of a 21" front & 150-17" rear with spokes and tubes is new to the 800gs and now the 800xc.

    so as you can see your rear tire history is from TL origins.
  7. fbj913

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  8. ducnut

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    Actually, tubeless have a liner inside the tire to seal the tire. A tube-type can allow air into the carcass of the tire with a resulting separation of the tread. I've seen it; not good.

    Where this thread is trying to head: I guess if a tire is not a TKC 80, it's not worth a shit.
  9. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    maybe, depends on what you ride most. more street than dirt? more dirt than street? its all opinion. Isn't that what this site is all about? forming your own opinions and then seeing what others opinions are? :freaky In my opinion for the style of riding I do I like the TKC 80. and I believe the tire will amaze you. It doesn't handle on the street like it looks like it should...
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    So,you need all this paraphanelia along to go ride in the dirt? What have we come to? For some reason the 800XC looks just like a 3 cylinder street bike with a little dirt styling and a 21" ft wheel. It does have more ground clearance then a strom? I have an older 4 cylinder 1200 Trophy but I do plan on getting a test ride on a triple soon.
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    guess you're hearing the opposite of me.
    the guys on OZ have being using the E07 for a long time now and reports are some the best rear mileage of any mfg.
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    i don't doubt that could happen, but i've read plenty who have not had that issue. the versys guys in particular, experiment as there stock front tire is 120-17" TL and not many adv tires in that size. because of this they've been using 120-17" rear TT shinko 244 & 705 with great results. other have use tires from other mfg. w/ no issues.
  13. Burren Rider

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    G'Day,

    The tiger is a really good combination if you enjoy a bit of road riding. I am a pretty steady road rider but this thing is really good on the tight, windy and often bumpy roads that I ride on the way to the dirt. And then, when you get to the dirt it is a lot of fun. The motor is incredibly tractable but you can still flick it around when you twist the throttle. To top it all off, the Tiger is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden (quite an achievement because the DL650 was pretty hard to beat in this regard).

    Cheers,

    Danny
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    A couple of photo's from a recent ride through the forest.

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    This was taken in the Rainforest where you can ride down across the creek and walk to the edge of a waterfall (only a few metres away) where the water tumbles nearly 100 metres into the valley below. Pretty awesome spot to spend a bit of time.

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    It pays to watch your step when wandering around these places though. Not sure, but my guess is that it was either a Brown or a Tiger snake? Fortunately it appeared fat and lazy as a I stepped past it so I had not intention of changing that outlook.

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    Those of us with the Triumph centerstand will know why I added this little accessory.:D
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    No more clanging on the dirt. Cheap and easy to remove.
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    I've got one but never installed it. How hard was it to install?
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    I found a better solution than a zip tie. I use a nyloon toe strap (usd with clip style bike pedals), cut to length. This allows for easy on and easy off and can be re-used. 10k miles and this has never come loose with off road riding, and can be undone without using cutters.
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    The zip tie was easy. So was the center stand. However, the S-shaped spring return mechanism has got to be one of the dumbest designs I've ever seen. It took lots of cussing. Getting the screw tight is almost impossible due to the confined space which causes your knuckles to cramp. If I were in your shoes, I would install swingarm spools and call it a day.:lol3
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    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    Brilliant idea.:freaky Thanks. Time to put those pedal paperweights on the shelf to good use.
  20. Mr_Chris

    Mr_Chris Get away, evil car!

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    I have a set of new web pages to read based on this one. :lol3

    Some comments/questions:

    - +1 on the K60 scouts, I've had mine in everything EXCEPT serious mud (I've kept it to bog holes 20-30 metres long at most, dual track) but when you take the air down to say 16 without panniers those side lugs on the rear kick in nicely. Nothing like the aggressive stuff some of you guys ride obviously. And the front feels good on all the dry stuff too. I am still not able to do "deep sand" on anything though so YMMV.

    - Has anyone got a link to fork seal protectors that are not full gaiters? I've seen them on those Canadian chicks' loaner Tigers where they're just a dust cover / wiper thingie that seems like a compromise for the non-heavy-duty user

    - I Came here looking for Air Filter advice, but I see that Unifilter pre-filter only. I'll have to measure up my own one but as I have just put the tank back on after a bit of a horrid fiddling session with Hepco & Becker top bars (shudder) I am loathe to tear it up again for a week or three. :eek1 BUT -- that prefilter looks like a simple foam cylinder wedged into the airbox opening. Is that really all it is? Looking at it doesnt seem like much, please help me feel good about it!!

    - so as above, I'm not a mechanical wiz but I find the H-B top bars to be a bit tight under the beak and I now have to force the plastics with a loud bang, between the bottom of the lamps and the top of the bar. Oh well atleast I have a spot for some Dually D2's or similar.


    Thanks for any help on the above gents!

    Chris