Tiger Tales - Dialling in the 800XC for the dirt

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by Burren Rider, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. Meles meles

    Meles meles Been here awhile

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    That was my video, post # 1401.
    It's still on YouTube:
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  2. GuiltyParty

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    It was your combination of tyres (E09 Dakar rear and MX-71 front) that got me playing around in the mud ALOT more. It's been really wet in the UK and without these tyres the bike would be sitting in the garage. I'd been using a K60 on the rear but they simply just don't cut it in the mud...fish tailing all over the shop so forget about doing any sort of hill climbs with them.

    I used the K60's in Morocco and they handled everything superbly, even the fesh fesh with full pressure if I didn't stop...but in the mud they're complete crap.

    Thanks for the tips Burren. Since your post I've added the rear mud flap, a R&G shock sock and the fender extender which is absolutely essential. I'm tempted now to put some type of screen around the front of the bash plate to stop build up...I had the bike in some knee deep ruts aka tank trap and the amount of shit it collected trying to plough through was phenomenal...I was actually starting to get worried about a fire :eek1

    Cheers
  3. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    So no more broken levers lately?
  4. GuiltyParty

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    hello mate, nup no more broken levers since I replaced the standard shitty handguards with barkbusters...had an issue with the stepper motor in Morocco though causing it not to idle properly because of the dust / sand but thats now been fixed (temporarily I imagine) and on Sunday the bike cut out on me doing some trails (see end of the vid). I thought it might have been battery but after leaving it for 5 minutes to cool it fired back up and hasn't done it since so not sure. Any ideas?? Probably just my ineptitude. The next addition is to drop a tooth on the front sprocket. Let me know if you want to go for a ride again some time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4f_2mPenMo
  5. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Mine does seem a little reluctant sometimes but it's never failed to start. I get the impression that it's like a poor contact somewhere. The only suggestion I have is to check the battery connections are clean and fully tight.

    My dirt riding has stopped until it dries out somewhat. But yes we'll have to get out at some stage.

    Those lanes are shit. I don't enjoy riding when it's like that. You need full on knobblies and I'm not going to do that.

    Don't know if you might be interested in this little trip I'm planning :- http://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php/topic,7488.0.html
  6. GuiltyParty

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    Cheers, I think you're right and I'm thinking it has something to do with my GPS.

    We found some fast muddy lanes as well but if you're still using the K60 you would struggle. Bardonecchia is definitely on my 'must do' list but I'm struggling with leave this year, thanks for the invite.
  7. slider162

    slider162 Been here awhile

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    So I'm an idiot when it comes to tires. I fell in love with the Michelin T63 tires when I had the BMW G650GS Sertao. But they don't have the stock size for the Tiger 800XC. Would the Michelin T63 130/80-17 rear work on the XC?
  8. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    I'm no tire expert but I will chime in... yes it would fit. I wouldn't run that tire on the T800. I think it would chew that tire up in about 500 miles or less. If you were going to ride in the desert full time then I think the tire would be fine. It would perform well off-road. But it's not a good pavement tire. Not sure how it would corner at high speeds either... It will also be much narrower which could change the overall handling of the bike. Smallest I would go is a 140.
  9. backwoodsKLR

    backwoodsKLR Ride more, Post Less.

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    I loved the T-63's on my KLR. But moved to the Metzler Karoo on my Tiger for a full on knobby. Still waiting to see what kind of mileage I get out of it. May go to a 50/50 tire next, possibly the Karoo 3, when it comes out...
  10. burmbuster

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    I'm running what many other are running. K60 rear and a TKC 80 front. Really good combo so far. I'm interested to see what kind of mileage I get out of the TKC 80 front.
  11. fullmonte

    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    Like fbj said, the T63 rear is too small, but I had good performance and mileage out of the T63 front last winter. However, I like the IRC TR8 Battle Rally front even better. It turns in and holds a line better on the street. Dirt manners are about the same. It's about half the price of a TKC80 and has wider knob spacing. I'm running a TKC on the rear. The tread is about half gone after 700 miles.
  12. fbj913

    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    I have run 3 sets of TKC fronts now. I can get about 6,000. Tire pressure is huge for this tire. Low pressure and they will cup fast!
  13. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    The rear rim is too wide for the 130/80 '63. I run it on my TE630 and it looks small on it. Great tire, on and off, wear is about 2K miles. Definitely not a tire for the tiger.

    The front on the otherhand is probably one to try out since it's about half the price of a TKC. I'm just getting ready to put one on the Husky, been running a Scorpion Rally which is an excellent knobby. Not sure about it on the Tiger though, it's pretty aggressive.

    Any full knobby, other than a TKC, is going to dramatically reduce road holding on the front of these beasts. I'm not a real big fan of the TKC but it's probably the best way to go on the Tiger. Just keep the pressure up or it will pinch flat. Like 25-28lbs offroad, 36 on.

    The rear is probably decent for it too, but any dualsport variety will work on the back, the K60 being real popular.

    I've been running the Fullbore USA Adventure tires front and back, and with 22lbs they are really good for mild dirt. Certainly not a single-track tire, but then niether is the bike, IMHO.
  14. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Don't know how the GPS could affect it.

    You know, come to think of it, I don't think mine has done that since I discovered my solenoid was corroded.
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  15. burmbuster

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    Glad you posted that. I am running 33 lbs. Is that close?
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    fbj913 On the Beemer Kool-Aid

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    Seems about right. Just stay right around what the sticker on the bike says and you'll be good. They wear fast down around 20-25...
  17. onetire

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    I had that tire on the rear of my XC. I changed it after 1200 miles because I was going on a long trip and it would not have gotten another 1000 miles out of it. Cornering was fine at full lean if you didn't get on the throttle too hard.
  18. GuiltyParty

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    Yep, that'll do it
  19. TekurRides

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    I am really sorry if this had been discussed earlier. I tried to search the thread and read as much as I could but the search tool really sucks.

    Here's the deal, I got a 2012 T800XC in November and absolutely love the bike.:clap I call her Scarlet :D. I did my first off road session in Jan having had absolutely no dirt experience. Just loved the experience and would like to continue to do it. Right now the only dirt oriented mod I have done is to install the HT engine guards. Next up will be new sump guard, hand guards and tires. With respect to tires, I guess TKC 80 seems to be the most popular for the front. However I noticed that Michelin T63 seems to have similar thread pattern and is available for a little more than half the cost of TKC 80. Since I will be spending a lot on other mods, unfortunately $ are of much significance. How much of a compromise is it to use a T63 on the tiger? anyone with experience in this regards? Any draw backs? Are there other cheaper alternatives that I need to consider. Or do you think compromising on the Tire is a mistake and I should go for the TKC 80.

    Also, regarding hand guards, of course bark busters are the one I want but Twisted Throttle are out of stock :cry and are getting a shipment only in 2nd week of March. I will be going to the noob rally in Death Valley at the end of march. Are there other alternatives to consider? How hard were they put on the Tiger?

    I am a total noob so any and all suggestions will be highly appreciated.:ear Again I apologize if these topics were discussed earlier.
  20. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    The T63 is too small for the Tiger. Hell, it's rather too small on my TE630, but it works so well I used them up on it.

    A shinko 705, or even better the Fullbore M40 will work on the rear. TKC up front. If you really want a knobby then Kenda BB, or Scorpion Rally. If you can get Mitas the Eo9 would also be good. A K60 rear works well road or dirt, so that's a good choice, although I shy away from the price and the mounting difficulty for flat repairs in the field. The advantage here is you could run a road tire up front with it for hiway, and a TKC with it for more offroad ventures.

    Other handguards should work, but can't say right off the top of my head.