TigerLilly's 3R plan - Old and Dilapidated

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by TigerLilly, Aug 6, 2017.

  1. Straw Dog

    Straw Dog Adventurer

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    Per the IRC a vent stack is required to go 6 inches above the flood rim before it goes horizontal. Per the IRC and the " Studor" brand specs an AAV is only required to be 4 inches above the the top of the trap arm/fixture drain. Now the UPC say (local) on AAV specs. So your area may be above as you state but here in Texas we use the IRC. I agree that I would only use an AAV if it is extremely difficult to do a vent stack. I would also only use a Studor brand AAV.
  2. Jarlaxle

    Jarlaxle Long timer

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  3. plumber mike

    plumber mike Highdive Deepened

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    I agree on all accounts, yet I find failure on the AAV greatly reduced when it raised to the point of being in a "dry" location. Oatey makes a decent Studor style vent for about half of what a Studor vent costs. Not quite half bad either. I'm stuck in the land of UPC. Still no cheating allowed :loco
  4. Straw Dog

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    No doubt if "debris" backs up into the AAV it will be toast. Like you said, really a 2 inch diameter S-trap with a short tailpiece used on a shower stall only and not a bathtub would probably never siphon out. I could never do it as I'm too OCD. That being said I have a temporary sink in my garage that has one right now. I used to do a lot of work in Galveston,and we had this really really old plumbing inspector and he would not allow an AAV under any circumstance. Now this was before The state required all municipalities to adopt the IRC. He also would not allow PEX for distribution piping. I guess the polybutylene thing was too much for him. All the General contractors building the really expensive beach houses had an intervention with the city manager and mayor and lo and behold PEX was allowed.
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  5. TigerLilly

    TigerLilly WGTOWWD/G

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    If I go the AAV route, it's no problem to get it 24" or more above any possible fixture flood level. I'm leaning towards the s-trap and keeping the existing vent. It would be 2" diamter with a really short tailpiece and shower only as Straw Dog has suggested. The inspector here doesn't touch mobile homes so he wouldn't be intersted in seeing it anyway...hypothetically of course.

    The place is currently plumbed with CPVC. I'll be doing an adapter to PEX for the shower rough in valve and shower head.

    Still a couple more days of roofing work before I can get to it though...
  6. TigerLilly

    TigerLilly WGTOWWD/G

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    Finally got the new roof on the garage. That was some serious work but it came out nice. This will also get painted with the silicone roof sealant so it should last a good many more years.

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    Then we pulled the swamp cooler to find this nightmare. :fpalm

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    I knew it was gonna be bad and it didn't disappoint. Scored a new plenum down at the sheet metal shop. Tomorrow this will all get cleaned up and some nice new sheet metal riveted over the whole mess including a sheet metal flashing between the trailer and garage roof.

    I want my swamp cooler back! It's 95 degrees here today and the window air units are not cutting it. One good thing about being this hot is the roll roofing and adhesive get nice and soft. Everything rolled into place and it will stick down really well with no wrinkles. There's only a couple of boot prints on the roof where I managed to step in some tar. :shog
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  7. TexasRT

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    I'm in no way an expert in this arena...But, have you considered an elevated plenum? I've seen some installations with the plenum extended above the roof about 1' with a platform frame constructed around the plenum for the swamp cooler to sit on. Properly installed this kept the water out of the roof and didn't lead to wood rot, etc. When the plenum rusts out as it eventually will, replace it without having to rebuild the adjacent wood and roof area.
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  8. TigerLilly

    TigerLilly WGTOWWD/G

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    Yup, I considered this and may yet end up going that route. The problem is finding one. We may take the one we have and just fabricate an extension for it. That's pretty easy. One consideration is the crazy winds we occasionally get here and the lack of really solid anchoring options with the mobile home. They don't build these things like stick built houses. Especially the roofs. A little regular maintenance on the part of the previous owner would have helped. Swamp coolers definitely require a little regular babysitting. You can't just stick one on the roof and ignore it for ten years.
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  9. TexasRT

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    You are right. The ones I've seen mounted like that were guyed on all four corners. Some of the anchor points were quite creative
  10. Valker

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    For ease of servicing and maintenance, I prefer swamp coolers to be window mounted.
  11. DaMonk45

    DaMonk45 I B Da Monk

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    in her climate, you cant beat a swamp cooler.
    IF
    IF you keep up with simple maintence.
    It sounds like the previous owner let it slide.
  12. Jarlaxle

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    How much water do they waste?
  13. Valker

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    None if being cool is your goal. In my climate, comparable to TL's climate, mine would use about 10-15 gallons per day.
  14. Jarlaxle

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    That is a lot of water in a desert.

    My air conditioning uses none..................
  15. Hannda

    Hannda Short, fat, bearded, old & slow

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    And their swamp coolers use about ten percent of the amount of electricity your a/c unit uses and has zero chance of releasing harmful chemicals (R22) into the environment. :dunno
    Life, it's full of compromises.
  16. Valker

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    That'd be 3-5 toilet flushes, or half a shower. I can live with that.
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  17. ER70S-2

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    Swamp coolers cost pennies on the dollar to run compared to an air conditioner and you couldn't use one in a humid environment anyway.
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  18. Whitey1

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    I have had swamp ass that made 10-15 gallons of sweat a day.
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  19. Hannda

    Hannda Short, fat, bearded, old & slow

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    Where does Baldy keep the TMI smiley?



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  20. Hannda

    Hannda Short, fat, bearded, old & slow

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    This is Shiney Things not Hiney Things.:lol3