Tinfoil hat time

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by _CJ, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. _CJ

    _CJ Retrogrouch

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    Disclaimer: The purpose of this thread is to plan a motorcycle trip.....

    Any of you guys hear about this deal?

    The Department of Homeland Security is set to activate a national license plate tracking system that will be shared with law enforcement, allowing DHS officers to take photos of any license plate using their smartphone and upload it to a database which will include a “hot list” of “target vehicles”.

    http://www.infowars.com/homeland-security-to-activate-national-license-plate-recognition-database/


    Personally, I've been getting a little fed up with the notion of being surveilled by my government even though I'm a fine upstanding law-abiding citizen. Phone calls being tracked/recorded, internet use being tracked/recorded, and now movements being tracked/recorded.

    I've been joking with the wife recently that I was going to take off on my dirtbike with nothing but a wad of cash in my pocket and travel around the state "off-the-grid" just as my own little personal protest to all the tracking that takes place these days. Now with this latest license plate deal, I'm giving it some serious consideration.

    I think getting around on dirt roads without running through any surveilled intersections would be easy enough, as would gassing up at remote stations and paying cash, maybe a little mud would accidentally obscure part of the license plate, but what about lodging? Do campgrounds or hotels take cash on the spot without an ID or reservation these days? Would I be limited to camping in the woods (not a fan of sleeping on the ground).

    Anyone else interested in an off-the-grid trip? Or are most of you guys going to be placing me on your ignore lists because I've clearly lost my marbles? :lol3


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  2. BlackHawkChief

    BlackHawkChief Been here awhile

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    how is this not a violation of our rights?:eek1
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    Mala Suerte Been here awhile

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    kojack06 Been here awhile

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  6. HellSickle

    HellSickle Scone Rider

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    Similar things have already been around the US for quite some time. From 7 years ago:

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/WA5Gy32aqdo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Do you think they've been idle in the past 7 years? According to Moore's Law, they have increased the speed of these systems by 4-5X since then.

    The UK has facial recognition cameras everywhere.
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  7. RustySpokes

    RustySpokes Ordinary average guy

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    I've even seen those automatic plate readers here in backwards-ass Pueblo, I bet they have them all over the place.

    I think that's a great idea for a ride, but you need to do something to get the authorities interested in you first so we can see how good you did at staying off the radar. :lol3
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  8. _CJ

    _CJ Retrogrouch

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    The way things are headed, just posting this thread is probably enough to get me "flagged". :lol3
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  9. COXR650L

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    For every Law Enforcement Plate reader you see there are 5-10x that many owned by private companies being used for everything from parking enforcement to marketing research. They have been very active for years making money by tracking your habits based on where you drive.........


    The phrase Big Brother is getting more and more blurred between the feds and companies such as Google. FWIW:huh
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  10. MountainsandRivers

    MountainsandRivers loves dirty things!

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    yeah, I'm gonna stick to riding my dirtbike in remote places and little time in towns. Like I do anyway!:D
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    Seriously though, are there any hotels that take cash up front if you "forgot" your ID? I pay for everything with plastic, and make reservations ahead of time no matter what, so I really don't know. I think the last hotel I stayed in without a reservation was the H Motel in Fruita round about 1995? This is probably going to involve some camping, huh. :bluduh
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  14. _CJ

    _CJ Retrogrouch

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    As far as I'm concerned, it's been mostly cons since about 1970.

    :gerg
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    That shiny hat is only gonna make it easier for those aerial spy cameras to find you _CJ.... :wink:
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    Pretty sure that as part of the Unpatriot Act, hotels and motels are required to see ID, I had trouble once because I actually did forget my wallet when working out of town, but there are places where they will look the other way with cash, I assume the desk clerk pockets it, maybe the maid gets a cut, too. Or the owner doesn't have to pay taxes on it, depending.
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  18. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Post 9/11 the number of gov't organizations that have sprung up and been granted police like powers is amazing. In reality the terror they protect everyone from is the terror of free thought and action. It is amazing to think about the number of organizations and the number of people they employ and the amount of tax dollars this swallows.

    United States Department of Justice (DOJ) - Includes

    Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF)
    Drug Enforcement Administration (since 1973)
    Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs (1968–73)
    Federal Bureau of Narcotics (1930–68)
    Bureau of Prohibition (1927–33)
    Bureau of Drug Abuse Control (1966–68)
    Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
    Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP)
    United States Marshals Service (USMS)

    United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) - includes

    Federal Protective Service (FPS)
    U.S. Coast Guard (USCG)
    Coast Guard Police (CGPD)
    Coast Guard Investigative Service (CGIS)
    U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP)
    U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
    U.S. Secret Service (USSS)

    And don't forget about the million plus police and sheriff types.

    I'm sure there are a few dozen other armed law enforcement type organizations that are working hard to ensure they have a piece of your tax dollars and ensure no one gets to uppity.

    It isn't quite as bad here in Canada but then we're more polite and easy going and have a naive faith in big gov't.

    It's funny how big corporations get into the prison business and then lobby gov't to change or enact laws that result in more criminals and more criminals doing longer stints in their jails, which effects the profitability of the jail. Also interesting that the people (police) who depend on gov't funding also control a key revenue source such as fines for everything from parking tickets to speeding and so on. This ability also can be translated into crime stats, stop more people and write more tickets equals more revenue AND statistically demonstrates that there is more crime and thus the self licking lollipop of justifying their ever increasing budgets becomes easier.

    Aw gawd my head is getting hot from the radars being directed onto my house. :huh
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