Tiny House Movement

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by osii, Jul 25, 2010.

  1. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    A fair option when trolls move in to dominate a thread with prepubescent schoolyard vitriol stemming from alcoholism and unresolved childhood issues. Maybe that's why there are mods.

    This thread has led to literally hours of online research of various design ideas but lately has been more about certain individuals and their personality disorders. John and Ken needed a "time out" some days ago, IMO.

    Currently I'm considering building a desert dwelling using the Super Adobe, or earth bag, system. Something that will never roll on wheels, for sure. :lol3 It's trademarked but available free of licensing fees for non-commercial applications.

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  2. PirateJohn

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    Frankly I am rather offended by that comment. The thread was originally about small houses on trailers, and I have contributed content (more than you, that's for damned sure).

    Going to avoid any more arguments if I can but the real hijack and juvenile behavior is elsewhere in my opinion.

    If you want to discuss housing options then I suggest that you post design and construction ideas. Not personal attacks.


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  3. PirateJohn

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    Hell, I'll help Schizz.

    Superadobe (one word). Kinda interesting. And you are right, doesn't lend itself to wheels or being portable. Any tricks on getting it legal?

    And isn't there a company north of Austin, just off the Interstate, that builds something similar?

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  4. Jurgen

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    and a mod has been summoned.

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    1. This is not JoMomma. Continued JM type "activity" will be met with the ban hammer.
    2. I have parsed the community thread stuff from this one. Keep that thread "non-commercial" in discussion
    3. This is not an RV thread, yes there is overlap- but I think most here have in their minds a difference between a "Tiny House" and an RV. We have an "RV living" thread tucked around here someplace for those interested in that. Actually, as pointed out, we have a fair number of RV threads. Keep the RV stuff in them.
    4. Please, someone please, next time a thread gets so derailed let a mod know sooner, not later. I now have to go do a second prune to toss stuff the Head Explosions. :bluduh
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    Jurgen, I will try to avoid posting wheeled stuff. Still, you have to understand that the original tiny homes were built as RV park trailers and that's because of the legalities involved. I don't think that many people realize this.

    The discussion of my personal project moved to Facebook so as to avoid any commercial aspect and conflict with ADVRider. And as I said for the outset I had no problem doing it out of my own pocket, and giving it to the riding community as a gift to friends who ride. So by that it doesn't seem to be a commercial discussion as far as I can tell.

    Feel free to advise otherwise if I am mistaken.

    Thank you for your patience.


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  6. PirateJohn

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    From the Tiny House Blog -

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    when the local shooting range runs out of paper, donate that ipad.
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    Floating teepee, from the Tiny House Blog

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  11. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    :lol3
  12. PirateJohn

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    "House To Catch The Forest"

    At 865 sq. ft. It's at the top end of "tiny houses" that typically top out at 500 sq. ft. Tezuka Architects, Japan.

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  13. PirateJohn

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    Sarah Susanka, author of The Not So Big House: A Blueprint For the Way We Really Live and widely credited with being the founder of the tiny house movement.

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    Not every year, but I doubt they get 10 years out of them, much like the big "clamshell" and "Alaska" tents our military buys. They are designed mostly for compact shipping and easy of set up more than longevity.

    And "Arab" culture has more of a tradition with stone, brick, and adobe, they are the city builders. The nomadic Bedowins, were the ones who used tents. The wider Arabic culture has a romantic attachment for it, similar to how American culture romanticizes cowboys. That is why you see various interpretations of "tents" in buildings over there.
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    Interesting. Thanks. I guess you are right, I was thinking about the Bedouins. I recall that Khadafi wanted to pitch a tent in New York when he came to speak at the UN and he was a Bedouin.

    Just as a point of information I would love to know what type of tent this is:

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    But as I just wrote in the thread that was set up to discuss my project as a practical matter everyone erects a pole barn:

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    I have a good book on pole barn construction. Have probably had it for at least 20 years. Alas, it's in my storage in Florida at the moment.


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    Excellent! Thank you!

    As odd as this may be I am pretty good at Googling but this was one area that I researched some time ago and didn't find anything that met my needs.

    I will probably call them in the AM just to get some pricing for reference.


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    Check out farmtek.com also they have price's and a better web site

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  19. ArcticaMT6

    ArcticaMT6 Been here awhile

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    What about the floating houses that are popular here in the PNW? Course, they definitely aren't cheap. A bunch of them are $1M+ if you're on Lake Union.

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  20. Manuel Garcia O'Kely

    Manuel Garcia O'Kely Back at last

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    1,000 feet is not a palace, but a couple or a single person who want a single family home should not have to buy 2,500 SF if they don't want it.

    I also think unit size should be related to the type of development involved - take for example a high-density cluster of tiny houses - which share a clubhouse with big kitchen, pool, excercise room, maybe even a few garage bays for rent. With this type of space as auxillary, each individual unit could be somewhat smaller, IMHO, than solitary housing units like the isolated place we have.

    Have we talked about scale of cost? One of the problems with a really tiny house is that certain costs of construction are fixed no matter how small the scale. Average cost per SF is higher.

    There's a well known ADVrider who does not come down here who has a tiny house, that is to say a very small place but it's an older place, not hip or trendy, nor mobile, it's in an urban environment. His garage is about the same size as his house, and it's detached. IIRC, his yard is rather large. When I saw it, he was really happy to have a place that was so easy to keep clean, etc.

    We have not discussed straw bale construction in small houses - anyone ever built or lived in one? When I picture them, it seems like such an interesting variation on Adobe. I imagine that in a cold climate, you could double up on the exterior walls or maybe just the north wall - heck, that would be enough room for an airlock on the north side! Adobe would be great in the right climate of course, but the fireplaces seem so inefficient for today, maybe build in one of those rocket heater designs - if you built it thru a wall, you could heat two rooms with it.