Tiny House Movement

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by osii, Jul 25, 2010.

  1. Manuel Garcia O'Kely

    Manuel Garcia O'Kely Back at last

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    Sausalito in Marin County has several colonies of floating homes - most have been converted to concrete based barges with houses on 'em. Most of 'em are fairly small, but only a really decrepit one will be cheap. Nice location though, some of them. And they are supposed to be great communities.

    Marin also has two "Boardwalk" communities where the homes are built on a tidal flat - with a foundation that basically floats on the mud - at high tide the water is under the houses similar to a stilt house, but not every high tide every year - and they all like to a group parking lot by a 5 or 6' wide boardwalk. There are some smaller houses out on these places - and several of those are real craftsmans work. But like anything on water, cheap they are not - and boy, talk about inconvenient - I had a friend lived at the Larkspur Boardwalk, next to last house. He was about 1/3rd of a mile from his car - and everything had to be hauled out there by hand or in a cart - you could ride a bike on it. It was a cool place until a Great High Tide came up thru the floor heating vents and soaked the house in 3" of water.
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    I have that book - pretty sweet, with some interesting ideas. Not really a whole lot of tiny houses iirc...
  3. JNRobert

    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    I have her books too and they're interesting. But, she seems to think 1600 sq ft is small - she doesn't give dimensions so its hard to tell just how small. None of them are in the tiny category of the original spirit of this thread.
  4. Jurgen

    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    Maybe it is just me, but stuff like this seems to run almost 100% opposite of the whole Tiny House concept. Instead of a small, well crafted space with intentional simplified living we have huge chintzy annexes for "stuff".

    Less is more. If you’re making the effort to live in a smaller space, you’ve probably realized that tiny house living leads to liberation from unnecessary stuff. Moving to a tiny space means letting go of non-essentials. In return, you’ll be rewarded with more time and money, as a smaller home takes a lot less of both to maintain.-- From The Tiny House Blog-- motto: Living Simply in Small Spaces
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    How do communities like that handle sewage?
  6. Jurgen

    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    Spot on.
  7. dlearl476

    dlearl476 Two-bit Throttle Bum

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    I lived for a couple of months in a rental in the houseboat community in Sausalito. IIRC, it was a combination of macerating pumps going into the city sewer lines and typical marina/RV sewage sucking services. (My "next door neighbor" was a converted tug and he just had his grey/black water tanks pumped every so often just like a seafaring boat)


    One of the (few) semi unpleasant things about it was that at extremely low tides a lot of the boats were sitting on a mud flat with pipes running everywhere. Kind of stinky. Morning coffee on the poop deck made up for it.
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    who 'spired her?

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  9. Region Riley

    Region Riley rally kit widow

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    I know of who you speak, his house is 400 sq feet and he has a 600+ sq ft garage offsite. I've been inspired by his house (he's our neighbor) and this thread for years and finally the hubby and I are making a move. We are in the process of buying a 1000 sq ft 1933 bungalow in our same neighborhood. Not "tiny" but small enough that a few friends and family members think we are crazy. :lol3

    I can't wait...let the purging begin!
  10. dlearl476

    dlearl476 Two-bit Throttle Bum

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    Spend a year living in a "canned ham" or an RV while you renovate and you'll be convinced its a palace. :deal

    :lol3


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  11. JamesG

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    That is true. But it does have application for small structures. If you DO "need" to enclose a space semi-permanently, for little material cost, and are willing to accept the drawbacks (poor thermal and acoustic insulation), it is a good solution.

    I've toyed with the idea of a long-pole teepee design using modern materials, steel tubes, plastic fabric, and flooring system. I think you could get a liveable conical house with as little as 20' in diameter. And just like the originals it would knock down into a semi-portable kit.
  12. PirateJohn

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    The subject of workshops and secure storage (presumably shared) has come up several times. And people say that the lack of those things is what keeps them from being interested in a tiny house.


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  13. PirateJohn

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    Key West used to have a sizeable, informal houseboat community called Houseboat Row. The current Houseboat Row at a marina is just a shadow of what it once was.

    The whole subject of liveaboards is tough. A lot of marinas and towns don't encourage them. I kept my sailboat at a marina that had a large number of liveaboards and some houseboats but down the road at the "nicer" marina they would have had a fit if you spent more than a night on your own boat.

    Because liveaboards usually don't pay taxes the towns aren't happy. When the hurricanes hit South Florida about 20 years ago Florida City and the other towns took the view that since folks had lost their boats and the docks were gone that they didn't exist and refused any aid whatsoever to the victims of the hurricane. Likewise when a storm hit Key West the authorities used the opportunity to remove all the Houseboat Row homes from the channel and restrict them to a small marina.

    I kinda came into the RV thang because I admired the liveaboards but for my own tastes an RV has proven to be more practical.

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    Tiny House Blog posted this on their FB account. Alas, it's only available in parts of the UK -

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    Me, too. I was working in Portland and one day I took a stroll down on the river. There was a Stevens Motor Cruiser moored with a for sale sign in it for about the same amount I was paying annually in hotel bills.


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    Three Stephens Cruisers from around 1930: Cielito, Bounty, and Killara
    Photo by Michael Slater · Copyright © 2005 Michael Slater


    Read more at http://www.boatingsf.com/photo-gallery/classic-motoryachts#IkWLwlprxzmhylHb.99


    I thought to myself "Why the fuck not?"

    Well the why the fuck not was that only about 1/3rd of the stops I made on that tour had coastal access. A diesel pusher seemed a nice compromise. I still dream of full-timing it on a boat though. Probably a 50' twin diesel Whitcraft if I can ever find one in my price range.
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    Get a lighter bike like a EX500 or something beef up the gangplank... Commute inland.
  17. PirateJohn

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    Yeah ... I had a sailboat for awhile. One of my few disappointments in life is that I am a lousy sailor. The boat rolls, and that gets my vertigo going big time.

    I have fantasized about getting a catamaran sailboat and "garaging" something like an F650 and making the bike largely water resistant along the same lines of the way that the US and Brit Marines use special trucks.

    But that's a fantasy. I don't see realistically doing that unless I win the Lotto. I asked about licensing a motorcycle in the Bahamas once and most of those islands want 50% of the documented value of the vehicle in taxes before they will let you operate it.

    Sailing and living in The Island though ... Nice fantasy! And the space in a cat sailboat is comparable to a tiny house.


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    I'm glad you don't live in my neighborhood :nod
  19. PirateJohn

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    Isn't my place Dude. Mutual feelings and all that.

    But this thread is about simplifying. The photo illustrates a simple pole barn structure. Very common in this climate.


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    Pole barns (in this case a Butler steel building) don't have to be ugly. But then again this is getting away from simplifying and a tiny house.

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