Tiny House Movement

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by osii, Jul 25, 2010.

  1. Manuel Garcia O'Kely

    Manuel Garcia O'Kely Back at last

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    skilled tradesmen. That is becoming more and more an oxymoron, and I know this from first hand experience. IF you can find a really skilled guy, pay him and treat him well.

    A homeowner can do as good a job and maybe better, because he/she is invested in the outcome.

    A vehicle full of tools does not a skilled tradesman make. There is a difference between one years experience ten times, and ten years experience.
  2. DriveShaft

    DriveShaft Long timer

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    A homeowner *can* do a better job being invested. DeputyGene's little hamlet looks pretty sharp from what I can tell & for its purpose. But man, some of these articles highlight what *not* to do. At least shell out for the right advisors, if you don't have much of a clue in certain areas. Water supplied through a garden hose...Zero insulation in a house built in Connecticut...These people are invested...but clearly clueless.
  3. Zapp22

    Zapp22 ZAPP - Tejas

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    btw that yahoo article posted above is pretty interesting.

    I guess skilled work migrates, or grows, where the demand is. here in one of the high growth counties in the nation its not that hard to get really high quality work. what's hard is getting "budget" work done. if you can just go hire a guy to do what you tell him to do for low pay..... negative.
    but if you want first-tier work done for middle class housing and up, its quite competitive here - the best skilled and creative kind of folks compete hard for the dollar. I have found that for small jobs, its better, far better, to bid high. go for the most expensive guy I can find because he will do it better than I can think it, and only have to do it once.


  4. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    There are both in the DC area, but lots of hacks to weed through before you find the skilled one. Price doesn't seem to be a factor, they are all expensive!
  5. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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  6. MeanMoe

    MeanMoe one really mean cat

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  7. Hay Ewe

    Hay Ewe Just a Wannabe

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    Depends on who you are crawling over? but after the third night it might get a bit old :rofl

    I kinda like this one, if I was on my own. I see these small set ups and think I would go spare when I need my own space some times.

    Hay Ewe
  8. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    True, but it would probably work just as well with the bed turned the other way and you just had to crawl out towards the foot of the bed?
  9. DriveShaft

    DriveShaft Long timer

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    Stumbling down a ladder at 3am to get to your crapper gets old faster than crawling over your gf, in my experience. But if I was honest w/ myself, I could tolerate it most of the time, unless I were drunk off my ass.

    He openly admits in his blog that he doesn't have a good answer to how to handle water service or sewer lines, since he's planning on in-board holding tanks and garden hose water supply, heat tape to keep those things patent in winter months. Going to be difficult to actually do that w/ shower drain to consider. In truth the tanks will sit under chassis like a normal rv, w/ heat tape and heat pads to the exit port. Have fun dumping your frozen lines. I wonder if he's going to bother w/ a proper septic leach field. Nah, better to have to dump 30 gallons every other day.

    Fully sealed foamed in construction. He expounds upon the need to install a ventilation fan, bcs his box is sealed up tight, w/ significant moisture generators (shower, propane, and 3 bodies). Great...One well ventilated corner of the house forcing air exchange to handle moisture control. Not what I'd call well thought out.
  10. spagthorpe

    spagthorpe Long timer

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    In truth, you don't have to do much with shower, sink and laundry water. When I lived in the mountains, we used biodegradable products and just ran it all down a hose into the yard where it was split to water things. The property at the time had a very old and very marginal septic system, and it couldn't handle normal use. The occasional toilet flush was about it.
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    12ARX Long timer

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  12. viajero

    viajero Too old to be a nOOb

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  13. Manuel Garcia O'Kely

    Manuel Garcia O'Kely Back at last

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    The bedroom needs a bit more thought, but I think this one is better than most in design and execution, I like the outdoor propane porch and storage.
  14. Mister T

    Mister T Waste Mgmt Consult

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    I think my house moves a tiny bit almost every day. It sure creaks and pops and groans a lot.
  15. RockyRaccoon

    RockyRaccoon Found:Gideon's Bible

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  16. DriveShaft

    DriveShaft Long timer

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    If all you're putting down the drain is shampoo and Ivory Soap, that's great. You can make a great hobby out of grey water management. But that's not all you're going to be putting down your primary residence's drain. Sometimes, you actually need to clean your oven. Sometimes you actually have solids/chemicals/crap in there that are a pain in the ass to filter out, and yet not what you want to water your tomatoes with. It happens. Even it it only happens 5% of the days that you use it...5% of full time living, that's still 55 days out of the year that your less-than-substantial waste-water management solution is a headache for you. That's a lousy service level to shoot for. Architects and designers should really be required to do service level math on the shit they design. If the little house movement is about being zen with your environment, one thing I think is pretty important to factor in is the fact that such a notion is aspirational. You're gonna fail at it...some of the time. Want success? Design for your aspirations. But plan for failure.
  17. spagthorpe

    spagthorpe Long timer

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    Actually, we never put any chemicals down our drains. Or solids. I can't think of a case where it was needed. If we had anything nasty, it went in the garbage and was picked up by waste management. Anything that fell into the chemical catagory, which was usually motor vehicle related, went to the local recycling station. I don't think it was that difficult of a lifestyle.
  18. WestTXDR

    WestTXDR Been here awhile

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  19. PaddedHat

    PaddedHat Been here awhile

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    This whole idea of ship ladders, no guard rails etc. prevalent in most of these micro homes, is flat out stupid. Trendy, but guaranteed to end up with an unhappy ending if you spend enough time temping fate. I recall a few years back when a local headed up to his remote hunting cabin, by himself, for a quiet weekend. When he didn't show up by Monday morning, the family asked for a welfare check. The state police found him dead at the bottom of the loft ladder, with a broken neck. The coroner determined that he had became disoriented, and walked off the edge of the unguarded loft in the middle of the night.
    It's a bit hard to believe that the hipster aesthetic shown in most of these faux houses is worth dying for?
  20. DriveShaft

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    Ya, maybe I'm making a bigger deal out of it than I ought to. It isn't how I'd handle things, if I were designing for myself, in my area. I know when you head upstate, it's a little more commonplace to have stores stock for septics. Personally, if I were to make a semi-permanent rv my ambition, i'd be installing a proper waste dump connection somewhere, have a blackwater tank and make the composting toilet the *alternate* toilet. That way I don't *have to* compost, and I don't *have to* dump, but I have alternatives.