Tire Mousse: for dualsporting?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by windquest, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. olec

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    This is the ultimate solution! Do something to seal the nipples either by some tublis inner bladder or search in the LC8 threads (lots of guys are creating tubeless setup from sealing the nipples with 'something' in there). Then use a valve and regulate the pressure when hitting longer paved highspeed sections. I use my valve for putting pressure into the tire so the bead pops in place (when running mousse), and sometimes the high pressure stays for quite long time becaue the mousse blocks the valve and the air doesn't go out again. So, seal the nipples completely in some way, and you have the perfect setup. This was the most creative idea for some time in here.......
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  2. windquest

    windquest Been here awhile

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    Charlie, thanks for your take on mousse, I'm feeling more and more confident that going with mousse is our best bet. Max speeds will be followed probably 100km/h, temps will be rather cold compared to desert. We will see between 20 celcius and -10 celcius with most temp around 5-15 celcius, this should help against heat buildup... I'll also take ur advice on rim locks.
    Jason

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  3. cyborg

    cyborg Potius Sero Quam Numquam

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    In this magazine article, did they just use the Tubliss inner tube, which is like a skinny bicycle tube, under the mousse? I assume they did not use the Tubliss "red bicycle tire" bead locker part of the Tubliss system?

    I have used the Tubliss system with good results so trying to picture the Tubliss tube with the mousse. That would make for quite heavy wheels too.
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  4. bxr140

    bxr140 Flame Bait

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    I've never used anything but tubes so i have no idea how much any of the other stuff actually weighs, but it seems like if you had a mousse and a tubliss system in there it could be comparable, if not heavier than just bringing tire changing tools and an extra tube and a patch kit.

    Put another way, is weight savings actually a legit reason to dual sport on mousses?
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  5. Bill the Bong

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    They actually used the Tubeliss inner tube in the rear and a bicycle tube in the front. The idea was just to be able to adjust the feel and extend the use of the mousse when it becomes soft. The tubes should be as thin as possible otherwise you'll not be able to fit it with a new mousse. I have a feeling that it would be quite a mission in any case.
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  6. cyborg

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    Thanks for that info :beer
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  7. Nowwhat

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    Thinking of pulling the trigger on the new Mefo Big Mousse for the front of my 570 Berg....getting tired of the flats....2 last week alone inside 15 miles....
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  8. ramz

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    I'm convinced. I just ordered 2 MOM21s for the fronts on my CRF230F and WR250R. Working on the correct sizes for the rear Pirelli MT43 and IRC 4.00-18 TR11 trials tires. I'll do winter shakedown testing and be ready to roll next spring - no more tubes and attendant tire changing tools and pump, saving about 10-12 pounds on the WRR.
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  9. windquest

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    Go for it!:clap let us know how it goes, and posts some pics... Im thinking of going with the Mefo Big Mousse on the front too for our trip...
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  10. windquest

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    Let me know how the rear situation works out, I was under the impression that mousses didnt fit the tall side wall of the trials type tires... Im really pumped that more and more people are trying mousse, I think savings in hassle and tools is going to be worth it.
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  11. neduro

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    If it's helpful, I did a post on changing mousses some months ago, starting with post 465 in this thread.
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  12. Nowwhat

    Nowwhat I'll Go Second...

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    so helpful that I just became a sponsor for your Dakar campaign....:freaky
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  13. MrPulldown

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    Did I jsut read this right. You will have spare helicoptered in. What kind of ride, support and wallet do you have going on.

    I am on page 50 or so of the BAM ride, adn he toasted his rear mousse and has needed a new one.

    If you have heli support fuck the mousse and jsut use heavy duty tubes and a rim lock. Esspeically if you are only riding 250s. When you got a flat call in the bird and the mechainc and keep riding till they catch up with you.
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  14. windquest

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    Not exactly, I think you got the wrong impression. We do not own a helicoper or have a bunch of money to burn. The kinda of ride we are going on is nothing like the BAM road or any other trail you might think of. It is a 3 part trip, the 2nd. Part being the difficult one. It is approx 600km of unsupported land to cross in the subartic of Canada which include crossing over the continental divide. I say "land" and not "trail" because a significant portion of that 600km no longer has any distinguishable trail remaining due to rock slides, bogs and rivers... There is no one up there to help us if we get stuck, hurt, or have a mechanical failure. No one has ever made it through unsupported without a fuel/food drop via bush plane or helicopter. That being said we are attempting to be the first to do this unsupported. This means we have no intention of using a helicopter, however in an emergency(broken bones etc) we have no choice but to pull out the visa and make a call on the satellite phone for help. I truly believe that a mousse will work in our trip and fully plan on using them. If you would like to know more about our trip feel free to visit us in the Canada regional forum under "the ultimate Canol thread". On that note, I'll stop my own highjack... Back to regular programing
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  15. F650Dakar_Norway

    F650Dakar_Norway What off-season?

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    http://www.mefo-shop.de/Reifen/Mousse/

    Some dimensions to choose from here.
    Now which mousse-tyre combo should I choose for my 690RR for dual sporting?
    I don't like the Michelin Desert tyres on the tar ( too slippery rubber when wet ) and don't ride hard competitive style, but rather conservatory and moderate gravel-touring speeds - depending on how bad, fast mates I ride with :D

    Let's just say we do medium to long transport liaisons on tarmac and topping it off with moderate level gravel roads - nada pure offroad. Just some odd greenlaning and tractor roads, wood roads etc.
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  16. lastplace

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    You are making me cry. Why not sell the 690RR and get a GS for that stuff?
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  17. F650Dakar_Norway

    F650Dakar_Norway What off-season?

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    Well, that's nobody elses biznezz. And since I already own an F800GS
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  18. F650Dakar_Norway

    F650Dakar_Norway What off-season?

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    ... I simply use whichever bike fits that day's moods! :thumb
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  19. Arrowsmith

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    I have a question ....

    I might be all washed up on this, but maybe you can help me out:

    Would it be right to assume that with a big dual sport (say...a 690 KTM or maybe a 570 Berg) that seems some highway miles, one could use a tire mousse up front and just stay with a regular good old fashioned heavy duty tube out back (no mousse)?

    Thoughts?

    Thanks folks. Great site. Great knowledge base too. :bow

    Arrowsmith
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  20. NordieBoy

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    Which end do you puncture more often?
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