tired of my wee, what's my next bike?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by brooklyn slim, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. brooklyn slim

    brooklyn slim nasty, brutish and tall

    Mar 24, 2004
    I posted here a few days ago with some questions about the Stelvio. Very helpful replies from our resident Guzzisti.

    Another angle: I ride a 2006 Wee. I like the bike for my purposes - just about 100% road, commuting and medium trips (100-300 miles) and rare longer ones.

    Dead reliable, fits me fine, handles well enough for a rider with my riding style (I'm no hot dog but not boring either). And of course there's the Wee's legendary stunningly good looks...

    But the suspension sucks, it needs more power and I'd like something with more....character. Whatever, I'm itching to start the spring with a new bike.

    Something about the Stelvio really attracts me, despite my not having a chance to ride one. But I'm thinking more and more that it might be impractical for my purposes - too heavy, mostly.

    I'm looking to sit upright and not feel cramped (6'1") and I don't want a behemoth. Reliable and with great handling. Comfortable.

    So here's the question: coming from a DL650, what will I not like about an 800 Tiger roadie, which at this point seems the leading candidate? Reliability and comfort similar to the Suzuki?

    Is the new Wee different enough to warrant a look? Anyone get one and wish they'd held onto their old Wee intead?

    Any other candidates I should consider? I'm thinking that the BMW 800GS may be more offroad oriented and less suited to longer rides, and the Honda NC is more vanilla than my bike with probably not much more power. Agree? Other options?

  2. squish

    squish Out of the office.

    Dec 4, 2003
    Where the Ghetto meets the sea.
    I went from a wee to a Honda 919 and a r100gs now I'm going to go from them to a tenere, most likely.
    I rode a f800 and was totally not into it. I didn't like the feel of the Thairumph when I looked it over at the ims show last year.

    The nc really has size and mpg going for i. But I suspect with its lower output engine it will be very dull compared to the v twin of the dl650.
  3. Pecha72

    Pecha72 Long timer

    May 5, 2008
    Helsinki, Finland
    IMO, yes.

    And yes, I've had a K7, K9, and now the new version, that I think is the best of the three (well, I´ve still got the K7, too – but that´s another story........ :lol3 )
  4. omeoxlv

    omeoxlv Been here awhile

    Jul 20, 2007
    Omeo Region
    Perhaps the problem here is that you will find this situation repeated if you keep choosing the "common" or "popular" or "best selling" model?
    The issues you raise seem familiar and partly revolve around a wish for a dual sport, even one that really isnt when you come down to it.
    Maybe it comes down to economics, if you can only afford one bike then the choice is limited but if one or two are possible then maybe a pure road bike isnt such a bad choice. We wouldnt want to go for a pure sports bike as they are too hard and fast but for a MotorCycling gentleman of some discretion who would maybe like to do some "relaxed hooning" I would like to suggest one of Yamahas finest (now discontinued). And if you are in the states then you are fucked.
    But , its the MT01, different, very pleasing to ride and own-----
    heres mine
  5. Cowgirl

    Cowgirl Cougar on the prowl

    Sep 28, 2010
    North Saanich, BC
    I have a 2010 Wee and I've ridden the 800 Tiger and the G650GS. If I was going for a road oriented bike I'd snap the Tiger up in a second. The GS was the most boring piece of machinery I've ever ridden and I once owned a PC800 so that's saying something. The new Honda NC actually has less hp and is heavier than the Wee so it's a non-starter in my book. For my style of riding and what I want to do my replacement for the Wee will probably be a Husky Terra - I want a more offload oriented bike - but for sheer fun and sex appeal I'd take a Tiger.
  6. markbvt

    markbvt Long timer

    Sep 26, 2007
    Georgia, Vermont (that's one town, not two states)
    I went from a Wee-Strom to a Tiger 800 XC. The only thing I miss the Wee for is winter riding (because I don't want the Tiger to get corroded from all the salt spray). The Tiger is a superior bike in every way except one: fuel consumption/range. In that regard the Wee is better because it gets slightly better gas mileage and the tank fits nearly a gallon more gas.

    Still, the Tiger is so much better in every other way that I wouldn't want to ever go back. And I actually put 40,000 miles on my Wee-Strom, so I did like that bike.

    Might want to educate yourself before you make stupid comments like that. The Tiger is made in Triumph's UK factory, not their Thai one.

  7. Photo Boy

    Photo Boy Adventurer

    Sep 6, 2010
    Tampa, Florida
    I recently bought a 2012 Tiger 800 Roadie and have 2000 miles on it. (coming from BMW R1100/1150RTs and Triumph Tiger 955i) For me it needs a taller windshield and a better seat and hard bags. The stock seat is at Russells right now for a redo, I'll be ordering the 9" Jesse Safari bags for it in March and I'm using the Triumph taller adjustable windscreen which is good up to about 65mph. Eventually I'll get a Palmer adjustable windscreen.

    The suspension on the Roadie could use an upgrade but it's not too bad, a little stiff but seems to be softening up as the miles increase. The engine, transmission, fuel injection and ABS brakes are the best I've had on any bike. And the lighter weight is a welcome change from my previous bikes.

    Test ride the Tiger 800 and see how you like it. For me the 800 Roadie is the perfect back road touring bike.
  8. Ogre_fl

    Ogre_fl Long timer

    Oct 13, 2004
    Cook Bayou, FL
    I sold my 2006 650 Strom looking for a bike with more character.
    I liked the Strom and often refer to it as the "goodest" bike I have ever owned.

    I bought a 2010 Buell Ully XT, fun bike, but a bit too much character for me.

    After the Buell, I ended up buying a low mile used Versys on a whim.
    It was cheap and I really needed something to commute on.

    I figured I would sell the Versys after 1/2 a year or so and buy something like a tiger 800 XC which had just came out.

    Still have the Versys.
    It has a lot of the goodness (reliable, trouble free, cheap to own) of the Strom mixed with a lot of the funness of the Buell.
    I have done a few mods like a corbin seat and bars risers, its easily as comfortable as my Strom was with similar mods.
    I dont think it makes any more power than the Strom, but how it makes its power is so much more fun.
    Top gear roll ons are also noticeably more punchy
  9. BikeMan

    BikeMan smoke, drink, screw, ride

    Feb 28, 2008
    columbus, ohio
    IMHO, you'll like the 800 tiger power. looks pretty good too, except for passenger comfort. the new wee is different but, not enough to warrant a look. for example, new wee has smaller fuel tank, lower red-line, and is heavier than the old wee. and the new wee styling kinda looks cheap. g-luck with your new bike and ride safe.
  10. kingofZroad

    kingofZroad Been here awhile

    Feb 26, 2009
    Montrose, CO
    I spent some time riding Wee-Stroms, trying to talk myself into buying one. I rode the 2012 DL650 as well. It IS an improvement over the old wee, in my opinion. Still, it didn't give me that "special feeling"...

    I rode multiple bikes in my search for my first adventure bike. I bought the Tiger 800 XC immediately after test riding it (and after months of research). I believe it will provide nearly the same reliability and mileage as the wee. The motor is AWESOME, and I love the looks!

    Go ride several bikes, one of them will "speak to you."
  11. Jeathrow Bowdean

    Jeathrow Bowdean Been here awhile

    Nov 12, 2012
    Western Canada Dream
    There ia a little bit of diffrence between my 2011 and my buddy's 2013 V, and the narrow tank seems to fit be better. I to find the V as a ok unit, but a change up for me will be latter on. I'm doing up a custom DRZ for my all rounder being that I only do 600 or 800 km days. Most of my stuff is in Western Canada, and my out side circle is 1200 kms max, and this is on the odd trip once and a while, so my V days will fade away in the next few years as well.

    I like the v for what it does, but I'm more of a 50/50 dude, so the little DRZ will fit me well. It's nice to be not boring, and change is good. Thats what makes biking fun.

    From Jeathrow Bowdean
  12. Pecha72

    Pecha72 Long timer

    May 5, 2008
    Helsinki, Finland
    You´re right about the tank size, it is 20 liters (vs 22 for the older one). But the funny thing is, consumption has come down, too, so range remains just about the same, you just need to buy less fuel. I dunno where you´ve got that it´s heavier, should actually be lighter (dry/curb weight thing often leads to confusion). And there are many other improvements over the older model as well, so I disagree about not being worth a look.
  13. bikepharmer

    bikepharmer Baja is on the way

    Jul 31, 2008
    Had similar symptoms to yours, and the big Katoom cleared them all up. Unique look, lots of head turns, fast and awesome suspension.

  14. goodcat8

    goodcat8 I can pass this guy.....

    Feb 19, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Ktm 1190 adv

    That or the tenere will be my replacement for my wee. Mostly for the same reasons you mention.
  15. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

    Aug 20, 2002
    Sounds like you are describing a Super Tenere to a T. Don't ride the spec-sheet, take one for a test ride.

    Btw, I test-rode an 800 Tiger. Fun bike but lacks big bike grunt. Maybe ok coming off a Wee though. Definitely more comfy than an F800GS.
  16. vellies

    vellies Been here awhile

    Jun 8, 2012
    Burlington Canada
    I also had a Wee and sold it because I got bored, and wanted more power. Bought a GSX1250FA less than a year ago and have done 10,000km........ Lots of power, but OMG now I am really bored...... I miss my Wee :cry:cry

    So, I am again shopping, went through testing a bunch of naked bikes like the Monster and Speed Triple to land on the Speed Triple R, just to realize that for $2k more in AUS I can have a standard new MultiStrada, which is a bike I have been drooling over for the past 4 years. Even my wife is approving as she knows how long I have wanted one, but it is a lot of $.

    I think I am going to take one for a test ride, and would suggest you have a look at the Multi, to me it has all the good points that I loved about the Wee, and fixes the "negatives".

    On the Tiger 800, it is not for everyone. I looked at it on the web and loved it, went to sit on it and hated the seat / position, so did not even go for a test. May be a great bike, just not for me.
  17. brutusfly

    brutusfly Commuter ADVWannabe

    Apr 29, 2011
    S.W. Florida
    Same here. Only bike that seems tempting to me against the my '12 Wee would be a Multi. But for that kind of money, I could keep the Wee and and buy it a nice café, or dual-sport, or dirt companion.
  18. brooklyn slim

    brooklyn slim nasty, brutish and tall

    Mar 24, 2004
    I'm thinking this might not be the Multi's long suit. Plus they're around 20 large, aren't they? Nice to have a little money left over for gas after I buy the bike..

    I've heard the Duke's a marvel, but it's probably not for me.
  19. vivo

    vivo Adventurer

    Jan 8, 2013
    You really need to ride a few bikes to see what interests you. I ordered the Stelvio but I had a griso and concours 14. The guzzi has a great feel and character and it's a great handling long distance machine . Weight itself is meaningless. How the bike feels when riding is everything, if that weight is in the right place and the balance is good, the scale weight is irrelevant.

  20. Two Wheeled 'Tard

    Two Wheeled 'Tard Banned

    Jul 2, 2011
    Chicago (sort of)
    I'm in the same boat as you, after being on my second Wee and spending the better part of $2,000 getting the suspension and brakes up to spec. Next bike, I don't want to have to spend another couple thousand making it not squishy.

    I can't speak to any of the other dual-sports, but you say that you're 100% road-oriented, so my advice to you is this;

    Do NOT. NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT test ride the new Ducati Hypermotard. Don't do it. Seriously, don't. Especially don't test ride the SP verison, with the new 110hp engine, fully adjustable suspension, Ohlins rear shock, and super-bike brakes. Just don't do it.

    Or the Hyperstrada version, with the luggage and touring seat and other goodies.

    Because as soon as you do test ride one, you'll start trying to auction off your first born son to come up with the $13k sticker price.

    (I rode one for a few sessions at a Ducati Demo Trackday last year, and it still makes me shiver just thinking about how good it was. Fingertips have memories, mine can't forget the curve of it's power band . . .)