To Super Tenere...Orrr NOT to Super Tenere...

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by GSDonovan, Feb 9, 2014.

  1. GSDonovan

    GSDonovan There and back again

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    Howdy, I am in the market for a new adventure bike. I've owned an R1200GS Adventure and a newer Multistrada. I do a lot of long distance riding and ride through the winter here in New England, so wind and weather protection (and protection from noise/buffeting) are important to me. The Multistrada is an amazing bike in many ways, but its too sensitive/expensive for much off pavement work and riding in salty/sandy roads for my tastes. Its also loud as hell from a wind noise standpoint.

    I have the chance to buy a leftover Yamaha Super Tenere from 2012...yes 2012. Their asking price is $12,800 or so. Retail blue book for this vintage is $11k and change...and assumes 2800 miles :huh I'm drawn to this bike in part because of the price (do you think it should be even less?) and also because of their reputation of being drama free. I'm just worried I will be bored or underwhelmed by its performance. I did test ride one for a short 15 min about 2 years ago...felt nice, but not mind blowing. The new 2014 BMW GS Adventure is amazing both performance and looks-wise. :eek1 But is it that much more so to justify the $10K price difference? I can afford the BMW, but do I "need" it? These are the questions I wrestle with.

    Many say to "buy what moves your heart". I dunno. I'm not sure what I'm asking you guys in this post...maybe just thoughts and opinions to help move me in one direction or another.

    Also, how many miles are you getting out of a tank of gas? That's another annoyance for me with the Multi....I'm only getting 170-180 miles before the low fuel light comes on.

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  2. BryanCO

    BryanCO CO Rider

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    Lots of owner love their Super Teneres but I found it too boring -- too look at and ride. So, for me, that price would need to be a lot lower...like free. And, as your suspect, there isn't really justification for the GS to be so much more more $$ but my local Yamaha shop has 1-2 left over STs and it seems as though left over GSs are a rare occurrence...
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  3. DaFoole

    DaFoole Pacific Avenger...

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    Amazing? No. Stunning? No. Competent, great long distance traveller, competent on the dirt as well. Drama free? Absolutely. Ride, add gas, repeat. 26k mile valve adjust a plus. Competent out of the box suspension. For the 10k difference you can fix anything that bothers you and still have a lot left over. BTDT with the BMW's. 1150GSA and a 1200GSA. Great bikes but too many issues for my taste. For ME, the Tenere' is much more stable, planted and confidence inspiring on a dirt road. Amazing ABS that works great in the dirt. Never needed to turn it off. Don't do single track on big dualies so can't address that. For me, the power is more than adequate though many swear by a reflash of the ECU. About $300 IIRC. I get between 200/220 out of a tank. Depends on load and conditions. I always carry a ton of crap along with my fat ass...:lol3 YMMV....
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  4. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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  5. GSDonovan

    GSDonovan There and back again

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    Ah love this site....thanks for the responses so far, guys.
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  6. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    "Yes your Honor, the defense does have photo evidence we would like to submit as exhibit A."

    [​IMG]
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  7. GSDonovan

    GSDonovan There and back again

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    :eek1:eek1:eek1:eek1

    Holy smokes.
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  8. ADKMAC

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    I would think that owning a Super Tenere after owning the Mutistrada you would get bored. You seem to want a lot out of one bike and I don't see the Yamaha doing it for you. The new adventure BMW and the Stelvio have the biggest gas tanks but you might not want to flog them in sand/dirt. I think you need to build a big garage and buy a few bikes. One bike will not fill all your needs.
    Enjoy!:clap

    Mac
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  9. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    That's just a start. Forum members Ray and Karen just finished a North and South America
    tour doubled up on their Tenere out of England. 45,000 miles and hasn't even adjusted the
    valves! Did have to replace the rear wheel bearings I assume due to a constant load far
    over the bikes load rating. Did have the rear rim crack at the spoke mount do to over tightening
    after market stainless steel spokes. After returning to the stock spokes and settings no further problem.

    [​IMG]
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  10. de Vaca

    de Vaca Been here awhile

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    The Tenere is a great bike. I bought mine about one month ago from new old stock at the local dealer, (2012 model with zero miles on the odo.) I only have 1800 miles on it so far due to the snow and ice, but it is becoming a favorite. I've been riding for over 40 yrs, and am convinced that we are living in the golden age of motorcycling. The handling and performance of modern bikes is far better than what came before. I have enjoyed every bike that I've had, and have not ever been bored on one. If I ever am bored with a 100 hp bike that handles great, and makes me regret the end of the riding day, I'll be ready to give up riding. I've had faster bikes, but none that I have enjoyed more. The track record for reliability of a bike is a major factor for me. I like to ride far and prefer riding to working on my bike. YMMV.
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  11. MANXMAN

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    This is an interesting observation that can't be overlooked, but riding the new GS and the ST on the same day will likely be the only way to see which one suits you the best.

    $12,800 seems high for left over ST though. I'm sure the dealers with two year old stock would be very open to lower offers.
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  12. BryanCO

    BryanCO CO Rider

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    Ya, no doubt the ST is a great bike. If it 'speaks to you', buy it!

    I had a gen 1 Multi for six years. Kind of odd looking... But was super reliable for me and I rode it from Mexico to Canada three times... It spoke to me but not the right bike for a lot of people...
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  13. Hikertrash

    Hikertrash Wasted Rock Ranger

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    Seems high priced. Dealers are selling new 2013 Teneres here for $12999. If you're not in a rush, the new 2014 Tenere might be coming to the USA this spring with upgrades that may appeal to you. I would ride the new GSAW as well before making a decision.
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  14. luckychucky

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    If boring equals riding instead of working or wrenching; I'll skip the drama of working on a bike so I can take a boring ride. I'm a rider not a mechanic. Most of my Yamaha's have been drama free. But the price is still better than all the drama that comes with fuel pumps, shocks, final drive issues, and rims.
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  15. Al Goodwin

    Al Goodwin Long timer

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    I just bought a new 2013 for $12,990.......

    And the dealership has more at that price.

    I'll weight in here....I had narrowed my search down to the Tenere and the Guzzi Stelvio NXT.

    After riding them back to back I choose the Tenere. Yes, the Guzzi is BEAUTIFUL, and has real personality, but it failed to give me the warm fuzzy "I'm good for 100.000 miles" kind of feeling. I'm coming off a 72.000+ mile KLR, I expect longevity and durability.

    My $0.02 worth.
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  16. ex_MGB

    ex_MGB Been here awhile

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    I think the designers of the S10 had in mind that at a certain point the adventure itself becomes the source of excitement with the bike receding into the background as an unsung piece of solid kit, particularly when heavily laden on a long tour.
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  17. GSDonovan

    GSDonovan There and back again

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    Do you mind sharing what you paid? Thanks!
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  18. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    I've never really quite understood this statement. How could Kawasaki have ever sold a KLR?

    Sounds like it's not your first rodeo and you have had a chance to own enough to know
    what really works for you.

    To me it's a matter of deciding what I'm really going to use the bike for and what do I expect
    of it? I think most can afford more if needed or will do what's needed to buy it.

    Piece of mind has become a large factor in what I buy anymore. I want to trust the bike.

    Sure a nympho coke whore sounds fun for a day, but in reality I want to come home to
    a clean house, the laundry done, dinner on the table and a woman who loves me.
    Day after day.

    I've never owned a bike I couldn't sell if I didn't like it. A Honda RC51 was about the only one
    I can remember regretting buying. 6 months later that regret was gone.

    How could you go wrong with either bike? One will leave you with a lot of travel money in your
    pocket be just as capable as the other and have the best proven track record for dependability.
    Gee, tough choice.:wink:
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  19. GSDonovan

    GSDonovan There and back again

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    The statement isn't meant to claim that everyone only buys based on "what moves their heart"...its simply what some people say is a good way to decide which bike to buy.
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  20. Red Dust

    Red Dust Been here awhile

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    Find the bike not boring, love it on dirt roads, get 250 - 280 miles from a tank.

    Got a R1 & a Suzuki B-King and hardly ridden them since I got the ST last May boring I do not think so.

    Only 2 major niggles for me (might not be an issue for you at all) the screen which i fixed and handlebar vibes which I just try to learn to live with and not really noticeable on bad roads.
    Great bike!
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