To warranty or not to warranty? That is the question.

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by solarinsocal, May 23, 2012.

  1. solarinsocal

    solarinsocal Adventurer

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    I've asked this on the R1200GS board but without a whole lot of results so I figured I'd bring it here for some more ideas and opinions. Thanks.

    Hello to all. I've been lurking for a while but I'm at a small crossroads that I need some input on as I've never owned a BMW bike before. I will be doing the paperwork on a 07 1200GS with 66K miles on it this weekend. I have the option of getting a two year warranty for $990.00. Under normal operations for two years would there be any well known malfunctions that would cost this much or more? I don't know the reliability of these BMW motorcycles and therefore need the help of the people who have been riding them. Basically is this a good idea or not? I realize that it is always a gamble but would hate to add nearly another 10% in cost to the bike for something that I may with a high probability not use. I'd appreciate some information. Thanks to all.
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  2. ragtoplvr

    ragtoplvr Long timer

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    You need to find out what the warranty covers. then the inmates here can help you decide.

    Rod
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  3. David13

    David13 Been here awhile

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    You just need to weigh and balance.
    $990 will buy a lot of parts, and if you do your own labor (you know how the job was done that way) you can do anything.
    Otherwise you are out $990 for ... well ...
    I never get it. Only once did I ever get the extended warranty, and then ... it did pay off.
    But I don't really think it's worth it, if ... you do your own work. If you don't do your own work ... I don't know.
    dc
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  4. mattjw916

    mattjw916 never wears lip balm

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    aftermarket warranties are a waste... it's like paying in advance for work you might need, but odds are you won't...
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  5. SkiFly01

    SkiFly01 Govna Racepipe

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    I agree with the others, I had the option to get the extended warranty. I do my own maintenance and with the price of nearly a grand, you can get a lot of parts for that. If a final drive goes you can get a used one for around half of the cost of your warranty, then just pop it on yourself. :D
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  6. solarinsocal

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    Great information. Thanks. I heard from the other forum that the FD was about $2K which had me leaning a little toward getting the warranty but it's good to know that the parts can be had for less. I can definately turn my own wrench which is my preferred method when I've got the time. Supposedly the warranty covers everything from electronics, mechanical, parts and labor with no deductible for two years unlimited mileage. It sounds decent but I'm usually one of those non warranty kind of guy. I own and have owned Japanese bikes since the beginning and this would be my first non Japanese. I've never had any real issues with all of the bikes that I have had and currently have but some of the costs for repairs that I have heard about are astronomical on this GS. Please keep the info coming. Thanks.:clap
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  7. Bigbugberg

    Bigbugberg Meatbucket Supreme

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    I have a 2009 GSA (23,000 miles) had the following replaced/repaired under warranty over the past 3000 miles:

    Fuel strip: $285
    Clutch slave: $180
    Rear ESA Shock: $2000

    Other items failed:
    Tank emblem fell off, Remus exhaust mount failure, Motorrad GPS backlight failure (overheats).

    Personally, I don't think this bike is financially viable without a warranty. I'll probably ditch this bike when the warranty runs out for fear of what may break next; final drive perhaps? Front ESA?
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  8. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

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    I used to work at a BMW dealer. The aftermarket warranties paid for themselves. This was before the 1200's were out of warranty so it was 1150 issues like leaking rear main seals, stripped input shafts and final drives with various other problems like burned exhaust valves and ABS hydro units.
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  9. NoVa Rider

    NoVa Rider Long timer

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    Does it have ABS? If it does, and it is an ABS I pressure module, that is a $2,500 part, plus installation. . .. :cry

    The good news is that I think that module changed in 8/2006.
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  10. marty hill

    marty hill The Energizer Bunny

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    As a counterpoint. I've put over 230k on 6 12GS's since mid '04. I've had one leaky rear shock which was replaced under wty. My wty on current bike is about to run out and I will not buy the add-on wty. It's a bet and so far I've won.:D
    I do all my servicing cuz I enjoy it. I've hit 48 states and 18 other countries/typing this from Croatia.
    Good luck to you!
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  11. bobobob

    bobobob badbadbad

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    I'd strongly suggest that you get one..

    Like Anorak, I worked at a BMW dealership, as a service advisor.
    If you've got the money to get a BMW you're probably smart enough
    to realize how important it is to protect your investment.
    If you're still undecided, read the threads in this forum.
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  12. '05Train

    '05Train Mind is not for rent

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    Doing your own work is meaningless if and when you have a major breakdown 2,000 miles from home. I ride around 30,000 miles a year, and I do a lot of road trips. It's my experience that they pay for themselves.
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  13. nanotech9

    nanotech9 ** Slidewayz **

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    everyone who has had to use the warranty is going to think its worth it.
    almost everyone that hasn't bought it is going to think its a waste.
    everyone who has worked at a dealership is going to think its worth it.

    The first two are obvious. The last is simple. Bikes with problems under warranty are going to come into the dealer to get repaired. Every bike they see to work on is... get this... broken! Most of them are probably under some type of warranty. Those who don't have the warranty can't pay for the exorbitant prices most dealers charge, source the parts online or used, and do the work themselves. The dealer never even knows it happened.

    A warranty is an insurance policy. People who write warranties and price them out have predicted the failures, and service typical to the bike. The warranties are designed to MAKE THE MANUFACTURER MONEY. They do not offer warranties to LOOSE money. The ODDS are in the Manufacturers favor (unless they've overlooked something critical and do a mass recall) to make money, just like insurance policies.

    To recap. Warranties are a game of chance, and the house almost always wins. This tells me, if you do NOT get the extended warranty which was designed in favor of the house, you've just increased your odds to come out ahead.
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  14. Jim Moore

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    The driveshafts and shocks on the 12GS models are occasionally giving out around 50K miles. If either one of those goes bad you'll be making money on the warranty. If both go bad you'll be rolling in dough.

    That being said, check to make sure the shock is covered. And the clutch.
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  15. Dan-M

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    The warranty company is playing the odds and making a lot of money

    edit: well put nano
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  16. mattjw916

    mattjw916 never wears lip balm

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    Every single extended warranty sold paid out in favor of the customer? I call bullshit...

    Instead of buying a warranty, take the same amount of money and buy tax free muni bonds (or whatever other financial instrument gets you hot) instead... Not only will you have money on-hand to off-set repair costs in the case they happen out of the blue, but your money will be earning money (possibly even tax free) in the meantime.
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  17. Dan-M

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    If you are one to buy extended warranties every time they are pitched to you on cars, bikes, electronics, televisions, appliances, etc. Take Matt's advice above and you may just retire a little earlier.
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  18. Deuce

    Deuce Crazy Canuck

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    I would never buy a BMW without a warranty. All my previous ones (1100 & two 1200's) have needed expensive repairs. Once the warranty goes the bike is sold. :1drink
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  19. bobobob

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    This will probably come as a shock to you, but the warranty company is in business to make money.
    That's how they are able to provide the service they do.

    Look, this isn't rocket surgery.
    I wouldn't recommend the purchase of an extended warranty if the op was buying a new V-Strom.
    And I'm sure as hell not going to waste my time listing all the shit that has been documented in
    these forums that wrack up huge out of warranty bills on Beemers. And where are all these wiseguys
    going to be when the shit hits the fan? No where to be seen or heard from, I'll wager.

    Read the last ten pages of this forum and remember it's a freaking $1.50 a day
    not to have to go throught all the crap that so many others have had to go through.
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  20. mattjw916

    mattjw916 never wears lip balm

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    I don't think anyone is going to claim you won't ever incur a big maintenance item on a bike eventually, but having owned many bikes well out of warranty range, there is no guarantee that you will have any or all of those issues. So why pay for repairs in advance if you don't need them? It's not like FD failure is a guarantee by mile X or that the motor is going to lunch itself suddenly if maintained properly. All bikes with servo ABS don't assplode randomly... mine didn't even after 8ish years on the road.

    One thing I do know is that if I bought extended warranties for my entire growing fleet of cars and bikes, that would be a significant money pit, and would greatly exceed the typical maintenance costs.

    If you can't afford to maintain it properly, you can't afford to own it... That's among the reasons I don't have a Testarossa in my garage...
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