Tomos Scooters?

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Speedo66, Oct 13, 2012.

  1. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Aprilia SR50, Piaggio NRG, Yamaha Aerox, Yamaha Jog RR, Peugeot
    Speedfight, Peugeot Speedfight 2, Peugeot Jetforce C-TECH, Peugeot
    Ludix Blaster, Gilera Runner..

    There's probably more.
    I've ridden most of them over 50mph indicated, they're all rated
    between 5 and 6hp.

    That's great.. we gotta ride around with a restrictor in the CVT (35mph).
    :cry

    One of the reasons I sold my peugeot 50cc and bought the 125cc
    scoot.
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  2. Speedo66

    Speedo66 Transient

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    I just looked up the 2013 Yamaha Aerox, pretty cool looking, and a water cooled 2 stroke. Nice, but we'll never get it in the US.
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  3. Spalato

    Spalato Adventurer

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    TOMOS my first bike as Cortez will probably know back in the day in Croatia there was really no option I think 95% of bikers that are my age and I’m 37 started on one of these. What can I say first ride the thrill of opening throttle the sensation of wind in hair heart pumping like crazy and that was only automatic A3 also known as ZICO. Later on bought an APN6 also known as KOZA and I didn’t even know how to change gears. Had first crash on that bike broke an arm slide around 20 meters on hot tarmac in my flip-flops short trousers and t shirt those where the days when nobody and I mean nobody was wearing any kind of gear or protection at all. Helmet was something that was considered unnecessary. Crazy when I think of it but by that time it was too late I was already a bike addict. Bought another one from TOMOS line BT50 sweet thing with front disc brake at that time it had modern design. Well that is me hooked on bikes for life all because of TOMOS. I feel sad because it is over although I knew they sell company to Chinese.
    Just want to say thank you TOMOS
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  4. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Yeah, all bikes I mentioned are water cooled 2 strokes.

    Slap a Leovince ZX or RR pipe on any of them and they'll do GPS 50mph,
    maybe even more.

    My Speedfight did 50-51 indicated stock which was 45,6 GPS MPH, still
    plenty fast. It did 56mph indicated with Leovince ZX (supposed to bump
    the power up from 5hp to 6hp on this bike).

    Same pipe on the italian scoots would get you close to 7hp..
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  5. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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  6. tortoise2

    tortoise2 Been here awhile

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  7. JerryH

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    My local scooter dealer who also sells Tomos mopeds has several in stock, and says he can get more. But a reliable source (and dealer) on tomosmopeds.org, a forum for Tomos owners, confirms that production has ended permanently, and they are just selling off existing stock, which they apparently had an abundance of. But if you want a real 2 stroke moped, I would suggest getting one soon. Just like the 2 stroke Stellas, when they are gone, they're gone. I got my Stella just in time, and will probably never part with it. 150cc 2 stroke with a manual shift. How can you beat that? And better yet, it uses vintage Vespa parts, so it can be kept going forever.

    Not all 50cc 4 stroke motors are fast. The liquid cooled 50cc Ruckus tops out at a GPS 35-36 mph. It can certainly be modified, but you sacrifice a lot of engine longevity. I rather just have a bigger engine. Nobody is going to make a sophisticated fuel injected liquid cooled moped that does 50 mph. Nobody would buy it for what it would cost, and it would legally be a motorcycle. The Sachs MadAss 50cc even with a multi speed manual transmission tops out at about 30 mph.
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  8. Motovista

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    In the US, we did get some of the Malaguti and Aprilia 2t Liquid cooled scooters with the Yamaha style Minarelli engine, and the Kymco Super 9 as well. They are few and far between though because nobody really took care of them when they were new. About a year ago, someone out of florida was selling a Chinese liquid cooled 2 stroke. If you want to see some pretty neat liquid cooled two stroke scooters, google sprintframe. They get 22 horsepower out of the Minarelli 2 stroke engine.
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  9. tortoise2

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    Interesting Reddit posting by theforerunner343 about folded versus riveted crankshaft bearings.

    "After having owned and worked on many Tomos of the more recent generations I've found something that I thought I would share with all of you to hopefully spare some of you some down time in the future. If you own an A55 or a late A35, this tip applies to you.
    Somewhere along the line (I think around 2005), Tomos started using slightly different crank bearings in their engine cases. Where previously the bearings had riveted cages to hold the balls in place, the cages now just have folds in the metal (small metal tabs folded over the cage).

    This is what a folded bearing looks like.
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    This is what a riveted bearing looks like.
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    Here's the important part: if your engine has bearings with a folded cage, your bearings will fail! The cage will disintegrate into a hundred tiny pieces that will get sucked into your cylinder and possibly damage it! Buy new (riveted cage) bearings from your closest bearings/seals provider and install them. This is a cheap bit of preventative maintenance that will save you a huge headache in the future!"
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