Topo maps for Canada - free!

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by Yaktrain, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. Yaktrain

    Yaktrain Been here awhile

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    From what I found it should accept any size CF card... but how big do you need? I just created a mapset with all of BC and Alberta in topo Canada (which auto routes, so may have more info that the US version) plus all of Wash. Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming in US topo. It was 2280 mapsheets and just under 700 Mb. Add in the same area with City Nav. 2008 and it bumps to 2306 mapsheets and 820 Mb. Still lots of room on a 2 Gb. card.

    For comparision - the area of BC is 365,000 sq. mi. Alberta is 255,000, Washington is 71,000, Oregon is 98,000, Idaho is 84,000, Wyoming is 98,000 and Montana is 147, 000 sq. mi. for a total of over 1,100,000 sq. miles of Topo and City Nav. on 1/3 of a 2 Gb. card
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  2. Frank Warner

    Frank Warner Traveller

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    Making Garmin maps ..

    you need a data source .. for the loaction, name (if you want it) and type of roads, POIs etc. This can be tracks and waypoints .. or paper maps sceaned and geo referenced with oziexplorer.

    You then create a polish format map.

    You then convert it to a garmin .imj file

    You then create the garmin preview files (.tbl and one .imj) file for the map set.

    More? www.cgpsmapper.com ...

    I've seen some topo maps on http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com/catalogue.php they could be the same ones .. but avalible in smaller bits. You'd have the problem of creating the preview files if you donloaded them from this source.
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  3. markgsnw

    markgsnw WTF?

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    I have a 2GB card, and it will load all of City Nav NA with no problem. So I can do a "load and forget" with it. Ah, but now for the Topo maps: can't do all of NA, so I can split it up of course. Just curious as I'm acquiring more map sets and larger memory cards. I'll dig up a 4GB card and see what happens. It may slow the unit down too much, it is slow to start up now with both Topo and City Nav maps, and slow to switch map sets.
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  4. ZZR_Ron

    ZZR_Ron Looking up

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    Back on topic, it's nice to be able to zoom out further and still see the roads.

    Also, the accuracy is much better.

    There's one road here where my Garmin Topo software shows me
    riding on a lake more than once. This one doesn't do that, unless I'm on an ice road!!!:D

    The marker buoys shown on the lakes around here are wrong though.
    Don't go by them...
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  5. jackr

    jackr 2008 KTM 950 SE

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    Thanks for the tip Yak. As compared to Topo Canada roads are easier to see and there seems to be a few more bush roads visible. Unfortunately like Topo Canada not all roads are shown. The good thing is between the two of them I managed to plot out some pretty good tracks for upcoming rides.

    Yak we just might meet up some day. I'm from Kamloops also. I ride a Honda XR650L and am in the process of getting a KTM 950 SE from the States. Hope to see you around.
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  6. Gros Buck

    Gros Buck Beef = Packed Vegetables

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    512 meg data cards have sudenly become too small ...

    Paul Jr
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  7. ibycus

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    Picked up this thread off google. Thought I'd stop by and see if I can contribute something. (I'll admit I had to google that security question on the sign up page)

    One thing I noticed is people downloading very large (many tiled) mapsets to their GPS. You've got to be careful doing this, I've been told (although haven't confirmed it myself because I'm too lazy) that Garmin has an upward limit on the number of mapsheets it can address independent of size of the mapset. So basically, you can load 4000 mapsheets, but you'll only be able to see 1024 on the GPS (I don't know if that is the actual upper limit, but it would be my guess at what the number is).

    Also, the maps on mapcenter are the same (for the most part) as the ones in the EXE file (there are few that choked on mapcenter, but I've managed to compile locally, or someone else has compiled for me). Mapcenter will also typically allow you to 'sneak a peek' at what's coming in new releases (I'll compile them on mapcenter, download them, and then sometime later release a new version).

    Dale (aka ibycus)
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  8. Fin

    Fin Kahoon's my daddy!

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    Very, very good to know Dale. Thanks for all your work.

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  9. Yaktrain

    Yaktrain Been here awhile

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    I sent you a PM.
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  10. markgsnw

    markgsnw WTF?

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    depends on your specific Garmin GPS. This is really too vague.
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  11. touche

    touche RidAventure maniac

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  12. markgsnw

    markgsnw WTF?

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    question on the maps: what are the heavy straight black lines that show up? Some sort of grid lines? Digital/conversion artifacts? really long straight roads?
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  13. ibycus

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    I'm currently in the process of uploading a Mac version. It should be done at about 9:30PM MST (GMT -7).

    The download URL (when its finished) will be http://www.ibycus.com/ibycustopo/TopoMaps122.tgz .

    Dale
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  14. ibycus

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    In what area? Can you give me a Lat/Lon reference?

    There are some road elements in areas I processed earlier on that are mis defined. (newer areas don't have this problem).

    Dale
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  15. spidennis

    spidennis SandStorm Adventures

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    cant' wait to try it out!
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  16. ibycus

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    Its now ready to be downloaded. There are a few minor updates in this one relative to the PC version. (mostly in Newfoundland)
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  17. markgsnw

    markgsnw WTF?

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    hey ibycus, thanks for taking care of us Mac users. I'd already done the PC to Mac dance, but I'm downloading the new set again to see if the odd black lines go away.


    Question: would it help your server out if we BT'd this file? Or do you run into licensing issues?


    Thanks!
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  18. spidennis

    spidennis SandStorm Adventures

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    Hey Dale, maybe Garmin should hire you?! ..... like 2 years ago! ... a man that does what he says he can do , and quickly ..... very unlike a whole giant company full of lazy blankety blank blank blanks!
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  19. ibycus

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    Bit Torrent away, also feel free to burn and give away DVDs, just can't sell them.
    I've been meaning to set up some kind of torrent myself, but I think I'm going to move towards a different kind of installer instead, just have to get around to coding it. (My plan is to institute an 'updater' so that I can release small 'maintenance' releases without requiring the total redownload of the whole dataset).

    Looking at the file sizes, there must be more new data in this version than I'd thought. I'm going to have to release a new PC version soon (must update those maritime files first though, I've been promissing that for a while...).
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  20. ibycus

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    I should mention, I just got enough donations to buy the version of cgpsmapper needed to compile these on my own computer (the cgpsmapper author gives a special deal to people who aren't selling their maps), which will make updates to existing tiles *much* easier. (its a real pain when I have to go through mapcenter).

    Can you get me a lat/lon reference of one of these black lines?

    Dale
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